Question about 10 Point Preference for Veterans

Tomcat.USN said:
how were you able to obtain the sf-15 while still in service?
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He talked about it above. He sent a copy of his proposed ratings, retirement orders and 214. It may work with some agencies, but I don't think it will work with all. The other reason I did not want to do it that way is because I didn't want a potential employer to see my medical conditions as they would with the proposed ratings. If the ratings are simple like a ankle strain, or something like that, it would be no big deal. In the case of somebody with PTSD, or other bigger problems, I wouldn't want them to see it. As much as we hope they will not hold that against you, they are still humans. If they see something like PTSD, their mind is going to jump to thinking about an office shooting. Medical conditions are misunderstood by the masses for the most part and those misunderstandings can kill a job.

Just my .02
 
If you are a Vet but your retirement was not because of Combat wounds, you can still get some of your military time counted towards the service computation date for leave. You will fill out an SF-813 and list all the campaigns or deployments that you were a part of and they send the form to your service for verification. You only need 3 years to get to the next leave accrual level so be sure and fill that form out.
 
ranger2992 said:
He talked about it above. He sent a copy of his proposed ratings, retirement orders and 214. It may work with some agencies, but I don't think it will work with all. The other reason I did not want to do it that way is because I didn't want a potential employer to see my medical conditions as they would with the proposed ratings. If the ratings are simple like a ankle strain, or something like that, it would be no big deal. In the case of somebody with PTSD, or other bigger problems, I wouldn't want them to see it. As much as we hope they will not hold that against you, they are still humans. If they see something like PTSD, their mind is going to jump to thinking about an office shooting. Medical conditions are misunderstood by the masses for the most part and those misunderstandings can kill a job.

Just my .02
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I don't disagree with you at all. I can only speak for the VA, DCMA and USMS. Those are the 3 agencies I applied to and they all came back with adjudicated 10 point preferences while I was still on active duty.

I wasn't too concerned about any of them seeing my disabilities because the folks that do the preference adjudication and put together the cert list are not the people that do the interviewing and decide who gets the job...plus I didn't feel like any of my conditions would be detrimental to my job hunt.
 
joelf said:
I don't disagree with you at all. I can only speak for the VA, DCMA and USMS. Those are the 3 agencies I applied to and they all came back with adjudicated 10 point preferences while I was still on active duty.

I wasn't too concerned about any of them seeing my disabilities because the folks that do the preference adjudication and put together the cert list are not the people that do the interviewing and decide who gets the job...plus I didn't feel like any of my conditions would be detrimental to my job hunt.
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Where did you end up? I am DCMA here in California.
 
good deal. DCMA has been good. A little on the boring side, but I will get used to it
 
Here is another little known fact about the 10 point preference. You can skip USAjobs and send your resume, SF-15 and veterans preference letter to each agency and they have to consider you for positions even if they are not posted. Your name is supposed to go into the applicant pool every time a job is going to open. See below:

http://www.opm.gov/staffingPortal/Vetguide.asp#Disqualification30%Disabled

A veteran may file a late application under the following circumstances by contacting the employing agency. Agencies are responsible for accepting, retaining, and considering their applications as required by law and regulation regardless of whether the agency uses case examining or maintains a continuing register of eligibles.
Applications from 10-point preference eligibles must be accepted, as described below, for future vacancies that may arise after a case examining register or continuing register is closed. Agencies must accept applications from other individuals who are eligible to file on a delayed basis only as long as a case examining register exists.
  • A 10-point preference eligible may file a job application with an agency at any time. If the applicant is qualified for positions filled from a register, the agency must add the candidate to the register, even if the register is closed to other applicants. If the applicant is qualified for positions filled through case examining, the agency will ensure that the applicant is referred on a certificate as soon as possible. If there is no immediate opening, the agency must retain the application in a special file for referral on certificates for future vacancies for up to three years. The Office of Personnel Management's Delegated Examining Operations Handbook provides detailed instructions.
  • A preference eligible is entitled to be reentered on each register (or its successor) where previously listed if he or she applies within 90 days after resignation without delinquency or misconduct from a career or career-conditional appointment.
  • A preference eligible is entitled to be entered on an appropriate existing register if he or she applies within 90 days after furlough or separation without delinquency or misconduct from a career or career-conditional appointment or if found eligible to apply after successfully appealing a furlough or discharge from career or career-conditional appointment.
  • A person who lost eligibility for appointment from a register because of active duty in the Armed Forces is entitled to be restored to the register (or its successor) and receive priority consideration when certain conditions are met. See 5 CFR 332.322 for more details.
  • A person who was unable to file for an open competitive examination or appear for a test because of service in the Armed Forces or hospitalization continuing for up to 1 year following discharge may file after the closing date if the register of eligibles still exists.
  • A Federal employee who was unable to file for an open competitive examination or appear for a test because of active Reserve duty continuing beyond 15 days may file after the closing date of an existing register.
Moral of the story is to find the agencies you want to work for and find out what jobs they have. Send your packet to them and you will be considered, if qualified, prior to the job going on USAJOBS. They can even pass up the competitive process and hire you using an appointment. A lot of agencies consider this a big advantage because they don't have to hassle with the whole competitive hiring process.

Use this link:

http://apps.opm.gov/sppc_directory/searchlist.cfm
 
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