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JasonGt

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I have read a bunch of the treads on this site and still confused. A little about myself, I currently in the Navy and hit my 8 year mark in April of this year. My job right now is a recruiter for shore duty but my sea time is on a sub. Just made E-6, and made recruiter of the year, so i have had a good year with one bad thing. A couple months ago I was diagonsed with type 1 diabetes. Just had a physical and they put me on limdu and they want a med board. Went a talked to the limdu people and they told me I should be fine and be able to stay in the navy. They just need to get the dictation and screen it before they decide if I need a board. Sounded good to me, then I went to my command to inform them about my limdu status. Basically i was told get ready to find a back up job and get my disability lined up. I do not want to kicked out of the navy because of this and wanted to know what i have to do to prevent this from happening.
 
So I'm still waiting to be put on limdu and its been about 2-3 weeks and they haven't sent the paperwork of. And my detailer wants me to do a overseas screening because i'm in my window for orders. Should I do a oversea screening since I will most likely fail this?
 
Just had a physical and they put me on limdu
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If you are in-fact on LIMDU, then you can not be screened for nor transfered from your present command. You should have a LIMDU coordinator at your servicing PSD. Find that person and make sure that the proper codes are entered in NSIPS. Your Detailor should already see that you are on LIMDU and will not work with you or issue orders for you until that code is cleared.
 
Just checked today.. I'm now on limdu.. So I guess I have to wait on a MED board. The worst part about this whole thing is I live and work 2 hours away from a base and my command. So I have no real idea what is going on what I am suppose to do besides goto my doctor appointments.
 
Well, I guess it would all depend on what limitations you have and what your Doctor will do next. Will he dictate a MED Board? Have you talked to the Doctor about referring you to a PEB? Now, the ball is in your Commands hands as far as what you will do while on LIMDU. Have you talked to your RINC about your limitations and medical appointments?
 
I was recommended for a med board so far but have to wait on my doctor appointments and have all the medical documentation sent to the navy for a dictation. I really don't have any limitations right now and they made me the rinc a couple months ago so I can goto my appointments which are only once every couple months. The only limitation the navy pa gave me was no sea duty, ia, and live 50 miles from a mtf. So far this condition has had no effect on me. In fact I work out more now and feel better since be diagonised.
 
What's your rate and how many years do you have in?
So far, it sounds like you're going to fail any kind of suitability screening if your limitations are no sea duty/deployments and within 50 miles of a MTF.
If you pass the medboard, but fail the suitability screening, it will ultimately be up to your detailer as to whether or not they keep you or get rid of you.
I'm going through a similar situation right now, different medical issue. Was found fit for duty by the medboard, but failed my suitability screening. I'm a CTT (EW type), whose main job is at sea. With only 11 years in, the detailer won't keep me on shore duty for the remainder of my career (which is understandable). Not sure what's going to happen to me now. Either go back to the medboard again, or separate out.
Start making copies of your medical record now... at least 3.
 
I'm a STS, which is strictly a sea base job also. The only thing my detailer would let me do is goto a sub tender in guam. Which would allow me to be a first class for 12 years.. and just rotate back and forth with that. Or try to convert to another rating that is only a desktop job, such as NC crf, but I would have to be picked up by a board. I looked up the suitability requirements and I already know I will fail. Also spent part of a day making a copy of my medical record. Still waiting on a med board also, so no clue what is going to happen to me.
 
To Jason and Jeff. I am in the same position. My PEB has already gone to D.C. I am concerned that they will come back with a FIT FOR DUTY and then I am certain that I will not screen for sea duty. This is a concern with many of us on this site. Jason, one of the moderators on this site is a Lawyer and is very interested in this particular problem. The Navy has a habit of finding sailors FIT FOR DUTY and then ADSEP for failing to screen for SEA DUTY or an IA tour. My detailer has already said that is what he will recommend if I am FIT. This is a problem for all of us. If you believe this is going to happen to you, I urge you to fight it. Seek legal counsel. Unless of course, that is what you want.

FIT FOR FULL DUTY A Physical Evaluation Board (PEB) finding that a member is reasonably able to perform the duties of office, grade, rank or rating.

If your condition is not UNFITING according to this definition then it should only be viewed as UNSUITABLE FOR SEA DUTY. If your rating is sea duty exclusive then by definition, should you not be UNFIT. Ok. So the Legal fellows have some work to do on this. It is a problem and we have some great guys in D.C. trying to convince Congress to solve it. In the mean time. We need to fight it at our level. Appeal every step of the way, go to a FPEB, get a lawyer, BCNR, everything at our disposal and then we need to communicate the problem to our representatives.
 
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Appeal every step of the way, go to a FPEB, get a lawyer, BCNR, everything at our disposal and then we need to communicate the problem to our representatives.[/SIZE]
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In my case, I not only had a recommendation of unfit from my ortho, but also from my command. Had proof of missing 3 duty days a week for almost 2 years for OT/pain management.... still found fit. Was determined by the IPEB that I could continue on with occupational therapy and pain management and be just fine. Requested a FPEB. Provided further documentation stating that I was dropped from OT due to a lack of progress and there was nothing further anyone could do to improve my condition medically. Was denied a FPEB, because the members of the PEB deemed I didn't provide any additional evidence to support my case.
Failed my suitability screening in about 5 minutes. The Dr was astounded that anyone could have found me fit for duty.
Unfortunately, I can't keep going back and forth through this process. I've been stressed out for the past 2 years about when or if I'd be separated and I need to have some kind of stability in my life.
 
That is a lot, all I had was almost a year ago I found out I had diabetes. At the time my chief didn't even let me has a couple days off, when my blood sugars where over 300. Sounds like I am in for a little bit about what they are going to do with me. The only good thing I have going now is that I work in my home town. The only thing I can figure is from the instruction, I am automatically disqual from overseas or sea duty since I have to shoot up insulin a couple times a day.
 
Jeff, I noticed that you have been covering this topic on another thread, "Found fit from IPEB..... what about suitability screening?". Any luck on getting answers as to where to go from here?
 
I've talked with a few people off line about my options. Right now I'm waiting to hear back from my detailer... he's not exactly sure how the process works out either. He talked about placing me back on limdu and requesting another medboard and he talked about separation. I've gone ahead and submitted a 1306 requesting separation. I've got everything documented and plan on filing with the VA if my request is approved.
 
If that works for you, great. I know that getting my life back would be nice. For me, I am going to wait for the IPEB and hope for an UNFIT >30 for bilateral knee arthritis, post bilateral knee osteotomy, PTSD, and a slew of other UNFITTING conditions listed on my NARSUM but not numbered. If they come back with fit, I will ask for a FPEB and present letters from Senior Enlisted Sailors in my Rate explaining what effects my conditions would have in my RATE and also point to the unfitting issues in my MED that they do not address, as I am sure that they will not address my residuals, Asthma, Sleep Apnia, GERD w/hiatal hernia, tendonitis, bursitus, hearing loss with tinnitus and vertigo etc. I will not let them ADMIN sep me with out a fight after 17 years 6 months Active and another 4 years in the Reserve/Guard. Making it two twenty would be great and If I can prolong this till September, I will hit 18 years active. I have been told that this is the magic number and that it would be nearly impossible for the Navy to Sep. me then. Still, I don't know exactly what I would do for two years. I certainly would not disagree with a Medical Retirement at this point. A desk job or teaching in a new career suits me fine.

Good luck to you.
 
I know a chief that hit his 18 year mark and they will not discharge him because of this. I would try to hold out till then, just so you can get retirement and disability pay. I wish I could do that but I would have to hold out for 10 years to hit 18..
 
I completely understand being tired of the process. It is very difficult to go through the waiting and not knowing which direction it will go. Can't make plans. Stuck in a rut with no real job to do, no way to make commitments. Waiting.........
 
Yeah, it definitely sucks... and I wish I could say you get used to it. If I had a dime for every time I thought I knew when everything would be over, I probably wouldn't need a job when I get out.
 
so I keep hearing about restrictions and stuff on limdu.. all i know is that i can't deploy and have to live 50 miles near a base.. which is weird because i live 70 miles from a base.. the main reason i hate all this is because i'm still doing my job but just not sure how long i will have a job. i'm willing to be they are going to wait to the last moment and go hey that guy is on limdu .. we should do that med board....
 
Have you requested a medboard yet? You don't need to wait for your command to request one. I would head over to your nearest Navy MTF or call your limdu coordinator and talk with them about requesting a medboard. Don't remember if you've mentioned it yet, but what geographic area are you stationed in?
 
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