Command wanting to see PEB/VA Ratings

jchar

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Just have a question and wondering if anyone else had ever run into this. My husband has been throught the IDES process, received his ratings and has orders in hand. Now his command is asking for a copy of his ratings. Although he has no plans to give this information to them, I was curious if anyone else had a similar situation.
 
Legally I don't think he's obligated to show them. I told my leadership it was a personal because I don't really think it's any of their business.
 
They have access to all the health care information they need to do their job without his ok, so obviously they don't need to know and hence shouldn't be able to force him to give up the information. Most likely they are just curious, as most people are about how someone's MEB went. They can't really do anything to him if they disagree with the findings, so not sure there is alot of harm that can happen with sharing.
 
They have access to all the health care information they need to do their job without his ok, so obviously they don't need to know and hence shouldn't be able to force him to give up the information. Most likely they are just curious, as most people are about how someone's MEB went. They can't really do anything to him if they disagree with the findings, so not sure there is alot of harm that can happen with sharing.


My first thought is that only those who have a need to know - ought to know.

And those people already have access to information.

I realize folks are curious, but your husband also has a right to privacy - and peace of mind.

My other thought is that those who are curious, may also misread this type of information, spread talk around (gossip & innuendo), and could make your husband's final days in uniform a living hell.

Unless Jason, maparker or the other "good heads" on this site say otherwise, I'd keep it simple and to the point about releasing any of his HIPAA-protected information.

Who are these folks that are asking your husband for these documents?

Positions??? Ranks???

And why are they in need of such information??? To what end???

V/R,
nwlivewire
 
nwlivewire-
Why they want this information is what baffles us! It is his Brigade Commander's office that asked the 1SG for the information. Like I said, he has NO intention giving them this information. I agree with you that the motivation should be questioned. Hopefully, with him letting his 1SG know he will not give them the results, it will be squashed (HOPEFULLY).
 
Are they just asking for the Status..ie., with the VA, awaiting decision, or specific medical questions? I would assume that your husband has a permanent profile and that should shut the command up if they are questioning what duties he can or cannot perform. I agree with the others, my Medical Condition is my business, yet my entire Army Reserve unit knows what it is....not a good feeling when you are a Senior NCO:(
 
You are entitled to privacy. I have taken the opposite approach and have tried to be open about my challenges. The response from my leadership has been outstanding. They have accommodated me at ever turn.
 
You are entitled to privacy. I have taken the opposite approach and have tried to be open about my challenges. The response from my leadership has been outstanding. They have accommodated me at ever turn.

Dear Chaplain:

You are very fortunate your Command structure is accommodating you. Unfortunately, over the course my five years of reading and responding to SMs from all branches on this website, most SMs experience just the opposite of your accommodating Command structure.

The ill-treatment, mistreatment, gossip, rumors, and negative character backlash behaviours directed towards fine military SMs who have been injured - this treatment - from the very institutions and, from the higher rank structures who so profess their comportment with military standards of ethics and values to the same - often-times miss the mark completely.

Sadly, the talk and the walk are a complete mismatch. And sometimes, even one's rank is no longer a buffer against this type of onslaught from the ignorant.

**********

I might add another thought to the wife that posted this thread another suggestion. If it is HIPAA information they want, then perhaps they should go through the official channels and request it from the proper channels and not ask your husband to give up his rights to privacy unless it is warranted. Hopefully, this will keep "nosey" people out of his business.

His specific Command personnel (if they have a need to know) can make a request to the PEBLO. Good luck with that!

But my thought is this: If these results are already a necessary part of Command information, then they already have the necessary documents within reach & review.

As stated above by another poster, updated profiles need to be passed along to his chain, so they don't "accidently" mess up his health conditions by having him do things beyond his limits. Your husband doesn't directly drive the train or the next set of timelines for transitioning out, so he needs to get his profiles to the right people in his chain.

I assume he's waiting for his Transproc to come down now? I hope you two are getting things gathered together now as it can be a rush at the end.

Thank-you for standing by his side.

And may these next years for you two become the simply wonderful times you so richly deserve!

V/R,
nwlivewire
 
Yes, there are some leaders that are toxic, but "most" is not close to my experience. Over the last 31+years I've meet a few awful leaders and a few mediocre leaders, but most were decent people.
 
I am not quite at 31, but 25+ and my experience is the toxic, unsupportive leadership who are so discouraging that it makes you want to quit and give up. Luckily I am stubborn, have a nice day.
 
I originally enlisted back in 1979 and have several years in myself.

I am not saying the "toxic" climate is everywhere, but it has and does rear its ugly head more often than it ought to.

And when folks are injured and sick, some leaders don't respond appropriately to those situations.

I encourage you to read some of these postings that go back over the years on this web site, and you will see a pattern of poor command climate that can get out of hand that has direct effects on the sick and injured.

nwlivewire
 
I would recommend the Soldier talke to his JAG Officer if it becomes a problem and have the JAG site where he must comply or were he does not have to comply. You could always tell your commander that the information is with your PEBLO. Either way, an 06 commander will find a reg or paragraph that will give him the authority if you are still under his command.
 
He does not need to show ratings, his orders which state everything his command needs to know will be sent to his command and available to them. Paper pushers get bored and like to snoop around and over step their legal authority all the time.
 
Just have a question and wondering if anyone else had ever run into this. My husband has been throught the IDES process, received his ratings and has orders in hand. Now his command is asking for a copy of his ratings. Although he has no plans to give this information to them, I was curious if anyone else had a similar situation.

Welcome to the PEB Forum! :)

With over 32 years of combined military service, 26+ years on Active duty, never default acceptance to injustice is my stance! ;)

That said, your husband's Command leadership can contact his assigned PEBLO to potentially receive whatever
"authorized" information and/or documentation available by military regulatory statues! Stand your ground for sure and take care! :cool:

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer."

Best Wishes!
 
Just have a question and wondering if anyone else had ever run into this. My husband has been throught the IDES process, received his ratings and has orders in hand. Now his command is asking for a copy of his ratings. Although he has no plans to give this information to them, I was curious if anyone else had a similar situation.
NO WAY!!!
 
I know this is old news by now. For what its worth: IAW Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense Memorandum dated 12 Feburary 2014, SUBJECT: Sharing of Department of Veterans Affairs Disability Rating for Members of the Ready Reserve. Service members of the Ready Reserve with a disability rating from the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) pose a readiness challenge for the Military Services. Reserve component (RC) commanders, not aware of such ratings, may assign military duties to these Service members that could impede VA health care and may cause health and safety concerns for these Service members and their units.
 
The most important document that you sign on every initial visit to see a medical professional is a form commonly referred to as "HIPAA" which stands for the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, which was a federal law enacted by Congress in 1996 that gave American workers the ability to transfer or continue their health insurance coverage when they change or lose their jobs, established industry-wide standards for electronic health care transactions, and required the protection and confidential handling of protected health information (You determine who has access to your medical information). Unless the legal professionals have a different opinion (I'm not an attorney but I slept at a Holiday Inn Express) :) I don't think the military COC can require you to provide them your medical info/records. This is definitely an issue that falls into MA Parkers area of expertise.
 
His retirement orders and/or severance orders will have the ratings on them, so it is not that much of a secret.
 
His retirement orders and/or severance orders will have the ratings on them, so it is not that much of a secret.
Indeed, hmm, albeit my military retirement orders state the PEB-referred combined rating only; it's written on the "percentage of disability" itemized section. :confused:

Thus, I quite often comment that possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer!

Best Wishes!
 
That is the only rating you get from the Military, the VA presents a "proposed rating" however it is not final until after it goes to the VA. By this time you are no longer in the military or part of the command which is asking the questions.
 
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