Can someone please explain how this VA pension offset works in regards to your DoD retirement pension.
VA Offset Pension & DoD Retirement Pension
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Pension is a funny word.
The basic break down is the VA pays first for disability compensation (the VA pension is a completely separate program that is based on war time service and low income, very few would get except older people in a nursing home). Everything the VA pays for injuries takes away, dollar for dollar, from what the military pays for injuries. The military retirement pay is never really referred to as a pension officially due to some fairly technical reasons that make very little sense. But the basic break down is if you get the military retirement because of 20+ years of service or due to combat injuries then it isn't factored in, but if the money is due to a disability retirement, it is factored into the VA money and you won't see it unless the amount is greater than what the VA pays.
I have no idea if that helps at all. I don't think it really clarifies much, but the question is phrased wrong is my guess.
The basic break down is the VA pays first for disability compensation (the VA pension is a completely separate program that is based on war time service and low income, very few would get except older people in a nursing home). Everything the VA pays for injuries takes away, dollar for dollar, from what the military pays for injuries. The military retirement pay is never really referred to as a pension officially due to some fairly technical reasons that make very little sense. But the basic break down is if you get the military retirement because of 20+ years of service or due to combat injuries then it isn't factored in, but if the money is due to a disability retirement, it is factored into the VA money and you won't see it unless the amount is greater than what the VA pays.
I have no idea if that helps at all. I don't think it really clarifies much, but the question is phrased wrong is my guess.
I was rated 100% P&T VA and 70% DoD PDRL
I receive all my VA and a little tiny bit of my DoD PDRL.
My 70% DoD PDRL pay was a greater (bigger) number than my VA compensation.
That's why I get all my VA and a little tiny bit of my PDRL pay.
In many cases, the TDRL/PDRL pay is a lower (smaller) number than the VA compensation pay number.
So many folks will only get their VA pay as it is the bigger number.
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Some folks have a 20-year retirement letter from NG/Reserve. They will get CRDP and VA compensation when they turn age 60 (or a tad sooner if they have early retirement points).
If 20 years AD, you get CRDP right away along with VA compensation.
Some folks get CRSC along with VA compensation as they have combat/combat-related injuries. They have to apply for CRSC with their branch of service and can get CRSC as soon as they are discharged & have been approved.
nwlivewire
Thank you and my apologies if the question was not clear but you did assist
Thanks again for clarifying this for me
ThanksIt's nice to get more of your VA pay if your pay is offset because that is tax free
All this information is definitely helping me, thanks again Team
So if I get my retirement will the VA give me back my $58,800?
HD64:
I don't know. What's your situation?
Don't know what you're talking about.
Maybe start a new thread with details?
nwlivewire
I have been retired as of 28NOV15. My VA claim is still not closed out and thus I received a small retirement deposit covering 28-30NOV and am scheduled to receive a December check soon. My hopeful VA check will be of an amount greater than my DoD check.
How will this work? I was unaware I was going to be paid anything from the DoD. Will the VA reimburse the DoD?
DoD is taxable. VA is not. Is this going to add to my taxable income for 2015?
This just seems like a Sh** Storm brewing up something fierce.
How will this work? I was unaware I was going to be paid anything from the DoD. Will the VA reimburse the DoD?
DoD is taxable. VA is not. Is this going to add to my taxable income for 2015?
This just seems like a Sh** Storm brewing up something fierce.
Yes, the payment you received for 28-30 Nov is taxable retirement income, and the payment for December will be offset by your VA C&P once they finalize your ratings and pay you.
If you are rated by the VA for all of the same conditions as the DoD retirement, then the income should not be taxed and you can exclude it when you file taxes.
I'm surprised the DoD paid you for the three days, I tried to get paid retirement for 23 days (the time in between my DoD and when my VA claim began and they refused to pay it.
If you are rated by the VA for all of the same conditions as the DoD retirement, then the income should not be taxed and you can exclude it when you file taxes.
I'm surprised the DoD paid you for the three days, I tried to get paid retirement for 23 days (the time in between my DoD and when my VA claim began and they refused to pay it.
I was medically retired based upon the IDES (MEB/PEB) results (30% DoD/80%VA C&P). I'm not sure if that is different than your case. My preliminary VA results were given to me prior to discharge. My claim was filed back in May when I was active duty.
Exact same situation as you, the only difference is that I received my VA C&P final rating 10 days after being released form active duty.
Wow. That was quick! It certainly adds to the confusion as to why you were not paid.