Sleep Apnea Uvula Surgery prior to service

Travelerusa40

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I had a break in service between 1996-1998. In 1996 I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnea with the use of CPAP. I had my Uvula surgically removed in 1996. In 1997 I lost weight and never used my CPAP machine again and threw it away. I rejoined the service in 1998 with no sleep apnea issues until 2008 at which time a CPAP machine was required. The military gave me a Line of Duty (LOD) and prescribed me a CPAP Machine. I am leaving the service and I feel my sleep apnea has been aggravated by weight gain caused by PTSD and Sciatica/Back L4/L5 Surgery medication. It is possible to get service connected for PTSD and 50% VA rating if I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnea with CPAP use prior to service back in 1996? I feel my Sleep Apnea became aggravated while in service because I had no issues until 2008 where I was given an LOD.
 
I think the fact that everything with the CPAP happened during your break in service could make getting rated for the apnea difficult. Even though you were active and then had a break in service, would any conditions that develop during the break be considered EPTS when you re-enter? (Not sure, maybe someone here knows). However, if you still have the CPAP and are using it regularly now that you have been back in service, you might have a chance. Remember, most CPAP machines have memory/SD cards, etc. that the VA can pull to determine if you have been using the machine. A smart move would be to request a sleep study to truly determine if you still have apnea, and ensure that you are using the CPAP, then you probably won't have a problem.
 
I went to the VA and he asked me why I had three sleep studies. I told him that when I had problems breathing they had to do another sleep study to adjust the pressure. He never her of this. I found that odd, since he is a VA Exam doctor. Also, you stated to use the reader. I have been using my CPAP and have a reader so I can produce this if they need proof. The Reg says that they would have to look at how much my condition has been aggravated since it was diagnosed and compare the level of aggravation it also states that if EPTS then they would not look at it as service connect. Not sure if it would be considered ratable or note? CPAP is a big hit on the VA side. I hope I get something because It has been aggravated and I am taking decongestion bills, and medication. Anyone else have words or have experienced this?
 
With the line of duty "Yes" finding, you should be good to go for service connection purposes. You did not state how long your total service is, but with a "break" and another term after that, I am assuming more than 8 years total service. For DoD purposes, you will fall under 8 year rule, too.

I think service connection should be a slam dunk (either directly, or secondary to other SC conditions, i.e., PTSD/back conditions).
 
Has anyone ever heard the MEB doing a Telebehavior for PTSD interview? I have already been diagnosed by the VA while on active duty Army and received a Line of Duty. I went to my C&P exam and then ran down to the records to get a copy and it said PTSD Severe. So, why do I need to do a Telebehavior? Is this another way of the MEB / DoD to try and say I have personality disorder? I have 15 years active and 22 years of service. Presently Compo 1 Active Duty Army in the MEB IDES. Any one want to replay?
 
Has anyone ever heard the MEB doing a Telebehavior for PTSD interview? I have already been diagnosed by the VA while on active duty Army and received a Line of Duty. I went to my C&P exam and then ran down to the records to get a copy and it said PTSD Severe. So, why do I need to do a Telebehavior? Is this another way of the MEB / DoD to try and say I have personality disorder? I have 15 years active and 22 years of service. Presently Compo 1 Active Duty Army in the MEB IDES. Any one want to replay?

Well I had one done and this former psyc dr that had been retired for years was brought back on a contract to help fill the void @ Walter Reed.... It was a sham, I showed her finding to my treating psyc dr and he stated that she was using codes that were 15 years old. She also only spent 35 mics with me because she stated she was running behind. I formally asked for a second opinion, and it was granted..... ;)
 
Has anyone ever heard the MEB doing a Telebehavior for PTSD interview? I have already been diagnosed by the VA while on active duty Army and received a Line of Duty. I went to my C&P exam and then ran down to the records to get a copy and it said PTSD Severe. So, why do I need to do a Telebehavior? Is this another way of the MEB / DoD to try and say I have personality disorder? I have 15 years active and 22 years of service. Presently Compo 1 Active Duty Army in the MEB IDES. Any one want to replay?

Oh, she also didn't know what a CIB was, had never heard of the 8yr rule, asked if I worked with the marines (because they do all the fighting), had no idea what a V device was and said I had a mood disorder when I questioned her knowledge of the missions or circumstances on a battlefield without a FEBA...... It was a total sham, protect your self from contract providers that get paid bonus's for dumbing down the the results... :mad:
 
Oh, she also didn't know what a CIB was, had never heard of the 8yr rule, asked if I worked with the marines (because they do all the fighting), had no idea what a V device was and said I had a mood disorder when I questioned her knowledge of the missions or circumstances on a battlefield without a FEBA...... It was a total sham, protect your self from contract providers that get paid bonus's for dumbing down the the results... :mad:
What type of questions does the Telebehavior interview contain?
 
With the line of duty "Yes" finding, you should be good to go for service connection purposes. You did not state how long your total service is, but with a "break" and another term after that, I am assuming more than 8 years total service. For DoD purposes, you will fall under 8 year rule, too.

I think service connection should be a slam dunk (either directly, or secondary to other SC conditions, i.e., PTSD/back conditions).
I have I line of duty - been in 15 yrs active 21 time in service currently active duty AGR. I did not give them the date of surgery for the Uvula removal because it happened many years ago in between my 5 year break in service 1985-1989. Uvula removal was done by civilian doctor and he diagnosed me with Sleep Apnea but I had no problems a year later and forgot about it until it came back in 2008 when I was in the service active duty. Do I still have a good change that the VA will rate me for this? I just had my C&P Exam, and they have the LOD from 2008.
 
What type of questions does the Telebehavior interview contain?

They ask you the same stuff they do in person... it's just a tele conference with vidio feed. She will ask you all the qualifing questions for PTSD... your experinces... while she reviews your medical record. ;)
 
I am not sure if this relates much but I have severe sleep apnea and got 50% from the med board. My CPAP got stolen in a box in my garage when I just moved to Washington from Missouri. Will the VA here replace it?
 
If you was diagnose with Sleep Apnea during your Military Service,you should be good. The surgery isn't a guarantee to cure the problem. My Doctor says that procedure very seldom works. If your Sleep Apnea is back, then it is being aggravated by your service and it should be service connected. You will have to let your doctor know you need another CPAP. It shoulden't be a problem replacing it. I had to show VA my CPAP, in order for them to give me supplies.
 
My OSA was awarded service connection the first time through. I began displaying symptoms at 19 years old, just a year and a half after enlisting (35 years old now). I went to my military doc at 19 to complain about excessive snoring and daytime sleepiness. At the same time my blood pressure had spiked and I had put on some weight. He refered me to an ENT (an old Lt. Col) who told me that OSA was an "old man's disease" and that he wouldn't even consider a sleep study for me. Over the next 3 years in the service I continued to complain about snoring, my BP stayed high, and my weight steadily increased. I did 4 years and got out. About 3 years after separation I had a sleep study. My AHI was 59! I tried CPAP for a few months but it made things worse. I'd wake up in the middle of the night in a dead panic and would rip the mask off of my face. Sometimes I'd throw the entire CPAP unit across the room. Because of the failed CPAP trial I had surgery... uvula and tonsils removed, septoplasty, and turbinate resection. That worked great for about 4 years but then the problems returned. About 10 years after separation I was without health insurance and found myself in a VA clinic for the first time... I needed a refill on my BP meds. During the intake appointment at the VA I slam dunked the PTSD screen (which explained the panic / tearing apart the CPAP in the middle of the night). The PTSD revelation was an eye opener. I finally had a way to explain the things that I hadn't been able to put to words for so long. Once I came to terms with my PTSD diagnosis I began a service connection claim. I also filed a claim for my OSA. Luckily, I had a full copy of my service medical records. I did my own detective work, charting every instance in which my snoring/sleep problems were noted by a doctor. I also graphed my weight and BP from my physical at the MEPS to my last medical appointment prior to separation. When I saw the C&P doctor regarding my OSA claim he was quick to rule out service connection because there was no in-service diagnosis or outstanding event to show what casued it. I then laid out my charts and graphs. He spent the next 20 to 30 minutes poring over my medical record and eventually came to the same conclusion that I had.... something happened around the time I was 19 that brought on OSA. He theorized that I had some sort of chemical or environmental exposure that created a metabolic shift. One possible cause, according to him, may have been from one of the many immunizations I received. Between deployments to the Middle East and being on a team that was always a phone call away from going to Africa (those damn embassies were constantly being evacuated in the late 90s!) I had been immunized for just about everything imaginable. I thought the immunization/exposure metabolic shift theory was a little quacky, but the rating board took his recommendation without a fight and awarded 50% for OSA. My PTSD claim was awarded 30%. So, my advice to you is to do some homework before hand. It sounds like you have a solid case. Write it all out, chart it, graph it, timeline it, do whatever you need to do to sell it to the C&P doctor. Contrary to popular belief, C&P docs aren't there to find ways to deny claims, but they don't go out of their way to support them either. If you do the detective work for him, and present it in a clear manner, you make it that much easier for him to submit a medical opinion in your favor.
 
I just got a CPAP for sleep apnea, I and also being treated for PTSD and other issues. I would just like to know what should I expect, I don't have any trust in military docs.
 
When it comes to benefits and the VA the process of who gets what and how much can be complex. It even seems mysterious at times. If I understand you correctly, you were in the military when you had the surgery and were originally diagnosed with apnea. If this is the situation, you have a good chance of at least getting something. If I am correct it is already part of your record, even if you didn't need the machine for a given period of time. The condition was still there, even if you didn't require the machine for a year or so.
 
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