I calculate that I will be able to retire this 30 MAY 2022 safely with 20 years of active service based on the following calculations, referencing DA PAM 635-40 3-12, and speaking with my Retirement Services Officer. I can send my redacted NGB 23 in a message if someone is experienced in calculating 1405 time. Please let me know.
Where I’m at in the IDES process:
I entered the MEB on 19 MAY 2021. I just finished my VA appointments after 9 Months on 04 FEB 2022. I am currently reviewing my NARSUM that I received on 16 FEB 2022 and have to submit my nonconcur by 21 FEB 2022.
My questions are as follows:
-Is the information from the regulation pertaining to 1405 time being included in calculated medical retirement correct?
-Is there someone else that I can verify my official retirement date with ahead of time (Finance office, DFAS)?
-Is my Retirement Services Officer calculations and statement correct?
-Is it likely that I will make it to the calculated retirement date based on where I’m currently at in the IDES process?
-How much PTDY will I receive in addition to my accumulated terminal leave?
-What are any and all recommendations to extend my time in the IDES process to reach my retirement date if needed?
Retirement calculation details:
-My original retirement date based off of BASD: 05 MAR 2023
-My calculated additional 1405 time by Retirement Services Officer: 5 Months 5 Days
-My adjusted medical retirement date with included 1405 time: 01 OCT 2022
-My total saved days of leave as of 31 JAN 2022: 104
-My total saved leave days as of 01 OCT 2022: 124
-Calculation: 01 OCT 2022(New BASD w/1405) – 124 Days(Terminal Leave) = 30 MAY 2022
Referencing the DA PAM 635-40 3-12 below:
In general, the computation is the sum of the Soldier’s active service, the Soldier’s equivalent years of service for the Soldier’s membership, and/or inactive duty training points. For regular retirement, this combination of service is called 10 USC 1405 service. Unlike regular retirement in which the 10 USC 1405 service is listed only after the Soldier obtains 20 years of active Federal service, equivalent years of service is counted for disability retirement in meeting the 20-year threshold. In summary, a minimum of 7,200 points of combined active duty, membership, and inactive duty training points results in eligibility for a disability retirement.
Retirement Services Officer Statement:
I was finally able to pull your NGB 23 and do a calculation of your 1405 time. You have 5 months and 5 days of 1405 time and if you add that to your Basic Active Service Date (BASD) you get an adjusted BASD of 20021001 and a new retirement date of 20221001. If you get a medical retirement approved after that date you will be eligible for Concurrent Retirement and Disability Pay (CRDP) that will allow you to get both your VA disability and your full retirement pay. If you are medically retired before that date your VA disability will offset (be deducted from) your Army retirement pay.
Where I’m at in the IDES process:
I entered the MEB on 19 MAY 2021. I just finished my VA appointments after 9 Months on 04 FEB 2022. I am currently reviewing my NARSUM that I received on 16 FEB 2022 and have to submit my nonconcur by 21 FEB 2022.
My questions are as follows:
-Is the information from the regulation pertaining to 1405 time being included in calculated medical retirement correct?
-Is there someone else that I can verify my official retirement date with ahead of time (Finance office, DFAS)?
-Is my Retirement Services Officer calculations and statement correct?
-Is it likely that I will make it to the calculated retirement date based on where I’m currently at in the IDES process?
-How much PTDY will I receive in addition to my accumulated terminal leave?
-What are any and all recommendations to extend my time in the IDES process to reach my retirement date if needed?
Retirement calculation details:
-My original retirement date based off of BASD: 05 MAR 2023
-My calculated additional 1405 time by Retirement Services Officer: 5 Months 5 Days
-My adjusted medical retirement date with included 1405 time: 01 OCT 2022
-My total saved days of leave as of 31 JAN 2022: 104
-My total saved leave days as of 01 OCT 2022: 124
-Calculation: 01 OCT 2022(New BASD w/1405) – 124 Days(Terminal Leave) = 30 MAY 2022
Referencing the DA PAM 635-40 3-12 below:
In general, the computation is the sum of the Soldier’s active service, the Soldier’s equivalent years of service for the Soldier’s membership, and/or inactive duty training points. For regular retirement, this combination of service is called 10 USC 1405 service. Unlike regular retirement in which the 10 USC 1405 service is listed only after the Soldier obtains 20 years of active Federal service, equivalent years of service is counted for disability retirement in meeting the 20-year threshold. In summary, a minimum of 7,200 points of combined active duty, membership, and inactive duty training points results in eligibility for a disability retirement.
Retirement Services Officer Statement:
I was finally able to pull your NGB 23 and do a calculation of your 1405 time. You have 5 months and 5 days of 1405 time and if you add that to your Basic Active Service Date (BASD) you get an adjusted BASD of 20021001 and a new retirement date of 20221001. If you get a medical retirement approved after that date you will be eligible for Concurrent Retirement and Disability Pay (CRDP) that will allow you to get both your VA disability and your full retirement pay. If you are medically retired before that date your VA disability will offset (be deducted from) your Army retirement pay.
