Recently Started MEB

I recently got referred to start the MED process and im trying to find out more about it. This website has alot of great information but I need to know what i should be preparing for.

I was told yesterday after seeing an orthopedic doctor for arthritis in my knees that he is writing the P3 prem profile and getting the meb process started.

my questions are how long does the whole process take and will I be able to receive PDR? What do I need to do to make the process smooth?
 
Cpad,

Welcome. 6-8 months seems pretty standard for MEB/PEB process. Sometimes shorter and sometimes longer.

It's not going to be a smooth process. However, be very proactive throughout the process. Stay on top of your PEBLO (person who is suppose to guide you through the process). And you will find yourself having less anxiety about the whole situation if you can manage to have some control of the outcome.

The decisions by the MEB and PEB are made based on medical evidence. I would start immediately addressing any other medical issues you may have in addition to your knees. Knee issues are infamously rated low. Engulf yourself with information about the MEB/PEB process. If you know anyone at work who is currently going through an MEB/PEB, talk to them. This site offers a very good foundation of knowledge. If your installation has an MEB legal outreach I would go talk them asap about what to expect during the process.
 
I started my med board process back in May. I retirement date is 30Sep11 and everyone knew this. I went through all the motions with the Va appointments, not missing any of my other appointments and attending all my physical therapy session. So I keep ask psd and my peblo what is going to happen if the medboard isn't done when my retirement date comes up. The peblo states I dont know..so I ask PSD they dont know either so months go by and now July I ask again and then Im told you will need to be extended until the board is done. So ok this give me time to hone my skills so when I do get to retire it wont be hard to market myself with my disabilities. So Here is August and then I here that we have to hurry and do your extension but no one knows who is suppose to do it so Psd contacts pers. So Im still waiting then I find out that my pcm never did his narrative part so my med board package hasn't go anywhere. Then here comes pers8" since the med board has not been excepted member must retire at 30Sep and med board is canx. So this now leaves me with 63dys regular leave, retirement package to start and now job hunting also has to start. I'm at 1mth and 3dys. Is this legal and if so where is this written. I'm trying to find out why would they wait all these months and tell me at the last month. Did I mention I had 2 failed knee surgeries and can't walk with out a cane, depression, degenerative issues with the good knee and degenerative issues with lower back and right shoulder. Everything is documented in my volume 1 and volume 3 of medical records. So pers8 trumps a medical doctor? Can some one help me with this. Iam willing to talk off line if necessary.
 
I was going through the same thing about my orders but I already had a wistleblower case open with the DAIG, a simple email was sent on friday and monday I was on new orders, Next thing you can do if not that contact a lawyer that represents MEB soldiers at the major medical facility closes to you and they can advocate for you and push buttons to make sure you are on orders and no not pre-retire. Then again if you like to read here you go

AR 635-200
Active Duty Enlisted Administrative Separations Page 11
1–24. Medical/dental care required or sick in hospital when period of service expires
a. A Soldier may only be considered for retention past the set release date when one or both of the following apply: (1) Continued health care is required (must be in-hospital status but not necessarily occupying a bed). (2) Physical disability processing is required or has been initiated. The request for retention will be submitted per b
and c, below. Soldiers determined medically fit for retention or separation will not be retained past the set release date. b. A Soldier being retired for maximum length of service or maximum age will not be retained on active duty unless his/her medical condition indicates referral of the case to a physical evaluation board. When retention is required, the hospital commander will notify Headquarters, Department of the Army (AHRC–EPR–F), 200 Stovall Street, Alexandria, VA 22332–0478, and request the Soldier’s retirement orders be rescinded. The request will include the medical diagnosis and expected date of case referral to the physical evaluation board for processing. c. No Soldier will be retained beyond his/her scheduled release date without written consent signed by the Soldier. (See fig 1–1.) (1) If the Soldier is mentally incompetent or otherwise unable to sign, the next of kin or legal representative will be
requested to sign for the Soldier. (2) The consent affidavit will be filed in the Soldier’s MPRJ or local file, as appropriate, U.S. Army. (See DA Form
201.) (3) A Soldier retained under this paragraph is subject to favorable or adverse personnel action including actions per
this regulation. However, if the Soldier later demands discharge, he/she cannot be retained on active duty for the sole purpose of taking such administrative action. An officer authorized by law to administer oaths under the UCMJ, Article 36, will swear the Soldier (insuring that the Soldier personally appears before the officer), and tell the Soldier—
(a) How he/she will benefit from remaining on active duty in the Army beyond the scheduled date of release to complete hospital care or a physical evaluation (or both) under chapter 61, 10 USC.
(b) If he/she elects to be discharged or released from active duty as scheduled, he/she will not, after such discharge or release from active duty, be eligible for separation or retirement for physical disability.
d. Note: If the Soldier is unable to sign and the next of kin or legal representative cannot be located or will not indicate whether or not the Soldier will be retained, the Soldier will be retained. The hospital commander will supply full details of the case including actions taken to secure consent for retention. The hospital commander will notify—
(1) The nearest military commander exercising general court-martial (GCM) authority for Regular Army Soldiers. (2) The appropriate State Adjutant General for ARNGUS (AGR) personnel. (3) The Commander, USA HRC (DARP-ARE), 1 Reserve Way, St. Louis, MO 63132–5200, for USAR (AGR)
Soldiers. e. The medical facility commander will— (1) Send requests for retention, endorsed by the Soldier’s unit commander, to the nearest GCMCA for the following
personnel: (a) Regular Army personnel. (b) ARNGUS and USAR personnel on IADT or AGR tours. Retention of ARNGUS personnel must be coordinated
with the appropriate State Adjutant General. The Adjutant General (ATTN: AHRC–PDZ–B) will be the approval authority for ARNGUS and USAR Soldiers on IADT or Active Guard/AGR tours.
(2) Include the following information in the request: (a) Soldier’s name, grade, and SSN. (b) Reason for separation (such as ETS). (c) Scheduled release date.
(d) A copy of the signed affidavit consenting to retention. (e) Medical reason for retention. (f) Medical recommendation (approval or disapproval). f. Retention requires approval by the GCMCA. The GCMCA may delegate this authority to other military or civilian
AR 635–200 • 6 June 2005 11
officials on his/her staff. Every action taken according to such a delegation will state that it is taken “pursuant to authority delegated by ___ dated ___.” The Adjutant General (ATTN: TACP–PDZ–B) will be the approval authority for ARNGUS and USAR Soldiers on initial active duty for training or Active Guard/AGR tours.
(1) A copy of the retention action on Regular Army personnel will be sent to Commander, U.S. Army Enlisted Records and Evaluation Center, 8899 East 56th Street, Indianapolis, IN 46249, for filing in the OMPF.
(2) A copy of the retention action for ARNGUS personnel will be sent to the appropriate State Adjutant General.
(3) A copy of the retention action for USAR (AGR) personnel will be sent to Commander, USA HRC, (DARP-FS) 1 Reserve Way St. Louis, MO 63132–5200.
g. Soldiers will be advised of the advantages of remaining on active duty. Soldiers will be furnished the following list of retention advantages:
(1) Advantages while remaining on active duty for completion of hospitalization or medical care or while being processed for disability:
(a) Medical care and/or hospitalization provided. (b) Receipt of normal benefits such as pay and allowances, including exchange and commissary privileges. (c) Eligibility for dependent medical care if Soldier is on AD or ADT under orders that specify a period of more
than 30 days or is under orders specifying a period of 30 days or less that are modified or extended resulting in more than 30 days.
(d) State income tax benefits where allowed by the laws of the states concerned. (2) Advantages, if processed and found eligible for disability separation: (a) If permanently retired, the Soldier may choose the pay most favorably computed per Army regulations, or under
the law under which he/she is eligible for retired pay. If temporarily retired, the same selection of pay is authorized, but the minimum pay will not be less than 50 percent of basic pay while temporarily retired.
(b) If retired, a former Soldier and authorized Family members would be eligible for certain medical care depending on facilities and staffing availability at Uniformed Services facilities and certain medical care in civilian facilities. (See AR 40–3.)
(c) If discharged for disability, Soldier will be entitled to severance pay.
(d) To the extent that retired pay is based on the percent of disability involved, such pay is excluded in computing gross income reportable for taxation.
 
I am currently in the process of getting a permanent profile wrote for my medical condition for my chronic lumbar pain. I had lumbar dissectomy May 21, 2012 and have been working with AR MEDCOM to turn in requested (required) documents from all my doctors so they can write the profile.

I am due to PCS in November, but my med case manager said I will have a permanent profile before that. My major question is will I be referred to MEB? I have never had medical issues until my back and its been going on for two years.
 
I am currently in the process of getting a permanent profile wrote for my medical condition for my chronic lumbar pain. I had lumbar dissectomy May 21, 2012 and have been working with AR MEDCOM to turn in requested (required) documents from all my doctors so they can write the profile.

I am due to PCS in November, but my med case manager said I will have a permanent profile before that. My major question is will I be referred to MEB? I have never had medical issues until my back and its been going on for two years.

What branch of the service are you in? I know in the AF, extended profiles/waivers most usually trigger a MEB. This is especially true if your injuries affect your deployability, duties or cause you to miss work.
 
I am currently AGR in the Army. I am 42A and am the only HR person in the unit. My injury has caused sufficient time out of the office. I am still on convalescent leave. I have been attending physical therapy since Oct 2011. I have been on temporary profiles since Oct 2010 and they are just now getting to my permanent profile.

My back injury and radiculopathy have given me a sense of depression/anxiety and I have been going to a psychiatrist about it. This pain is causing major issues in my professional and personal life, but now that they are doing this packet on me to get me a P3, I am even more stressed. I have been researching like crazy regarding what is going to happen.

I have made a few assumptions as it pertains to how I see myself; not fit to stay in as my current position as I only work 20 or less hours a week because it hurts too bad to stay in the office longer. Also, I cannot do much physically, basic standing in formation hurts so much it cripples me to my knees.

I have all my medical documentation triplicated, and am consistently going to appointments besides PT on a weekly basis. I am thinking I cannot do my job without limited duty hours. Is that possible?

Also, how long does it take for MEB to begin after I receive my permanent profile? Thanks for all your advice.
 
Based on how your conditions affect your job and your daily life, it sounds like a MEB could be in your future. The fact that you are being seen for your issues (and documenting everything), you are doing well in preparing yourself for the MEB process. A MEB is initiated by your CC or doctor, so I'm not sure (AGR wise) that a perm profile will automatically trigger the MEB in itself, but getting a profile often leads your doc to recommend.
 
Thanks for the information. I will have to wait and see what happens. I will make sure I keep all medical documentation in case the military does decide MEB.
 
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