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RedHusky

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Hello there.

My story. I’m 22 years ARNG with an Afghanistan deployment in 2010. I started the IDES process October of 2020. I’ve been in the VA system since 2012 for PTSD. I was 30% and then they upped me to 70% in 2015. When I started the IDES process in 2020, I waived the VA part of it (hopefully to help speed things up) and did not file anymore claims because I was just happy getting 70%. Then fast forward to September 2021, and I get a letter from the VA stating “for DOD IDES purposes only, your VA rating is 100%.” I called my legal team and they said this is essentially a “pretend rating.” If I had filed with the VA for another claim (they have me documented as PTSD with MDD) for a third condition I have (which is documented by VA doctors, but never claimed), that I would have gotten 100% VA. In late October I got my PEB DOD rating and that was 100% for PTSD and MDD at the informal level, obviously no need to appeal. Signed my 199 and 5893.

*i just filed the VA claim on the 3rd condition to get the other 30% I was never expecting in the first place. VA states all they have to do is a document review with no appointments needed. So I presume I’ll be up to 100% in the next month or two.

Now I am waiting on the PEB decision to finalize, get to my RSO, and out process. Anyone know how long the last stretch last from 199 signing to discharge and then to the first check from DFAS. I was really patient during the whole process but now my civilian job as a nurse is being threatened by vaccine mandates (I’m a crazy non-vaxer) and I could really use the money while I look for other work. Also, if anyone could do the math for me…just so I know what to expect:

1. Have had 70% for a while from VA, expected to go to 100% in next few months

2. 100% DOD rating

3. 21 good years ARNG

4. Afghanistan deployment Feb 2010-December 2010

5. 2900 pts for NG retirement

6. Highest grade held - O-4 from 2013-2017

Below is a portion of an email from my PEBLO:

You WILL be eligible for CRDP when you reach the age you would have retired from the reserve since you have a 20 year letter. Since you will received 75% for disability that “should” trump your length of service computation since you only have about 2900 points and that would be divided by 360 so (from what I remember) you should receive the 75% computation for your retired pay. Also since it was determined to be combat related it “should” be tax free also. In addition there is a new “V” code the PEB started using a year or so ago they call it V5. If you look at section VI on your 199 the part I highlighted states the disability incurred in line of duty in a combat zone this use to JUST apply to soldiers receiving severance pay this is an additional V4 code for those types of dispositions and meant there would NOT be an offset due to the VA compensation. I have asked the PEB/PDA a number of times if this would also apply to soldiers or retired (NO VA OFFSET) of course I have yet to receive an answer. So you might get lucky and not have an offset(IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHEN YOU RETIRE WOULD APPRECIATE AN EMAIL IF THIS IS TRUE) otherwise you would/should apply for CRSC and possibly get aN additional tax free check (this is bases on LOS computation).

Anyway, thanks everyone on this forum. Retiring this way can be a lonely process but it’s nice to know others out there are going through the same thing.
 
Hello there.

My story. I’m 22 years ARNG with an Afghanistan deployment in 2010. I started the IDES process October of 2020. I’ve been in the VA system since 2012 for PTSD. I was 30% and then they upped me to 70% in 2015. When I started the IDES process in 2020, I waived the VA part of it (hopefully to help speed things up) and did not file anymore claims because I was just happy getting 70%. Then fast forward to September 2021, and I get a letter from the VA stating “for DOD IDES purposes only, your VA rating is 100%.” I called my legal team and they said this is essentially a “pretend rating.” If I had filed with the VA for another claim (they have me documented as PTSD with MDD) for a third condition I have (which is documented by VA doctors, but never claimed), that I would have gotten 100% VA. In late October I got my PEB DOD rating and that was 100% for PTSD and MDD at the informal level, obviously no need to appeal. Signed my 199 and 5893.

*i just filed the VA claim on the 3rd condition to get the other 30% I was never expecting in the first place. VA states all they have to do is a document review with no appointments needed. So I presume I’ll be up to 100% in the next month or two.

Now I am waiting on the PEB decision to finalize, get to my RSO, and out process. Anyone know how long the last stretch last from 199 signing to discharge and then to the first check from DFAS. I was really patient during the whole process but now my civilian job as a nurse is being threatened by vaccine mandates (I’m a crazy non-vaxer) and I could really use the money while I look for other work. Also, if anyone could do the math for me…just so I know what to expect:

1. Have had 70% for a while from VA, expected to go to 100% in next few months

2. 100% DOD rating

3. 21 good years ARNG

4. Afghanistan deployment Feb 2010-December 2010

5. 2900 pts for NG retirement

6. Highest grade held - O-4 from 2013-2017

Below is a portion of an email from my PEBLO:

You WILL be eligible for CRDP when you reach the age you would have retired from the reserve since you have a 20 year letter. Since you will received 75% for disability that “should” trump your length of service computation since you only have about 2900 points and that would be divided by 360 so (from what I remember) you should receive the 75% computation for your retired pay. Also since it was determined to be combat related it “should” be tax free also. In addition there is a new “V” code the PEB started using a year or so ago they call it V5. If you look at section VI on your 199 the part I highlighted states the disability incurred in line of duty in a combat zone this use to JUST apply to soldiers receiving severance pay this is an additional V4 code for those types of dispositions and meant there would NOT be an offset due to the VA compensation. I have asked the PEB/PDA a number of times if this would also apply to soldiers or retired (NO VA OFFSET) of course I have yet to receive an answer. So you might get lucky and not have an offset(IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHEN YOU RETIRE WOULD APPRECIATE AN EMAIL IF THIS IS TRUE) otherwise you would/should apply for CRSC and possibly get aN additional tax free check (this is bases on LOS computation).

Anyway, thanks everyone on this forum. Retiring this way can be a lonely process but it’s nice to know others out there are going through the same thing.
@RonG
 
I’m currently waiting on a grade determination as well (submitted October 28, 2021). I resigned my commission in 2017 from O4 to E5 because I wanted to serve as a 68W. Wanted to enjoy my time rather than sit behind a desk as an O5. Thought I was going to be serving a lot longer than 4 years post resignation.
 
I’m currently waiting on a grade determination as well (submitted October 28, 2021). I resigned my commission in 2017 from O4 to E5 because I wanted to serve as a 68W. Wanted to enjoy my time rather than sit behind a desk as an O5. Thought I was going to be serving a lot longer than 4 years post resignation.
If you would like an estimate of your pay, please provide answers to ALL questions at the link below my signature block.

Ron

Information Necessary --Computing Combat Related Special Compensation for CH 61 Disability Retirees <—-LINK
 
Additional Info for @RedHusky

CRDP restores only the longevity portion of offset retired pay. Offset retired pay in excess of the longevity cannot be restored.

Back in a few hours…

Ron
 
1.The total of my highest 36 months of pay divided by 36 is $8332

1a.--I did receive a DoD disability retirement.

2.--My DOD disability retirement (Chapter 61) percentage shown in my retirement orders was 100%

3. -- My total creditable points (2900) for retirement divided by 360 results in: 8.05 years

4. -- My VA Compensation percentage is currently 70%.
b. VA compensation is $1441.
c. No dependents
d. I don’t even know what SMC-K is?

(VA % expected to go up to 100% by January) can you do both calculations in case it stays under 100%?

5.--no Projected or approved CRSC percentage by your service yet. Will apply for it after discharge from ARNG

6.-- I also qualify for a reserve retirement. 21 good years.

7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment? No

8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option? No
 
@RedHusky

Hello,

History of Concurrent Receipt: LINK

Chapter 61 (disability) retirees must have their retired pay offset/reduced by the amount of their VA compensation.\
If they have qualified for another type retirement (such as regular, 20 years), and have a VA rating pf 50% of more, the offset retired pay can be restored by the amount of the longevity portion of retired pay. RC members with a 20 year letter can qualify for CRDP under the same circumstances when they attain ehd age requirement. In either case, If they have residual (left over) retired pay from the offset, the combination of CRDP and residual retired pay cannot exceed the longevity portion.

CRSC requires only a 10% VA rating and it replaces the amount of the offset that has been approved as combat related. The VA comp tables are used to find the amount, but if the longevity portion of retied pay is less than the CRSC amount found it the VA comp tables, that amount is used for CRSC. Any residual retired pay when combined with CRSC cannot exceed the longevity portion of retired pay. There are other factors as well...it is complex.
See this link for CRSC info:
Contemporary CRSC Information--Also See Update at Bottom of this Resource Page <--LINK

See CRDP info here: Defense Finance and Accounting Service > RetiredMilitary > disability > crdp <---LINK

edited to add: Defense Finance and Accounting Service > RetiredMilitary > disability > VA Waiver and Retired Pay--CRDP--CRSC <---LINK VA offset/waiver info

Ron
 
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1.The total of my highest 36 months of pay divided by 36 is $8332
1a.--I did receive a DoD disability retirement.
2.--My DOD disability retirement (Chapter 61) percentage shown in my retirement orders was 100%
3. -- My total creditable points (2900) for retirement divided by 360 results in: 8.05 years
4. -- My VA Compensation percentage is currently 70%.
b. VA compensation is $1441.
c. No dependents
d. I don’t even know what SMC-K is?
(VA % expected to go up to 100% by January) can you do both calculations in case it stays under 100%?
5.--no Projected or approved CRSC percentage by your service yet. Will apply for it after discharge from ARNG
6.-- I also qualify for a reserve retirement. 21 good years.
7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment? No
8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option? No
Hello,

I cannot provide a CRSC percentage if you do not furnish at least a guess of what your CRSC approved percentage will be.

You will not qualify for CRDP until you reach the age requirement. The age can be reduced by certain periods of deployment.

I will give you a CRDP amount in a few. It might be zero since at first glance it appears you will have a huge amount of residual retired pay...see my earlier post.

Ron
 
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1.The total of my highest 36 months of pay divided by 36 is $8332
1a.--I did receive a DoD disability retirement.
2.--My DOD disability retirement (Chapter 61) percentage shown in my retirement orders was 100%
3. -- My total creditable points (2900) for retirement divided by 360 results in: 8.05 years
4. -- My VA Compensation percentage is currently 70%.
b. VA compensation is $1441.
c. No dependents
d. I don’t even know what SMC-K is?
(VA % expected to go up to 100% by January) can you do both calculations in case it stays under 100%?
5.--no Projected or approved CRSC percentage by your service yet. Will apply for it after discharge from ARNG
6.-- I also qualify for a reserve retirement. 21 good years.
7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment? No
8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option? No

Estimate, CRDP at age 60

A. 8332 x 75% = 6249 GROSS RETIRED PAY
B. 6249 - 1441 = 4808 residual retired pay you keep
C. 8.05 AD years equivalent x 2.5% = 20.13% longevity multiplier
D. 8332 x 20.13% = 1677.23 longevity portion of retired pay
E. Your residual retired pay itself exceeds the longevity amount
F. CRDP = Zero
G. DFAS will pay the residual of 4808
H. IF your VA went to 100% (you did not provide the amount)--3,146.42 ; then 6249 minus 3146.41 = 3102.59 residual retired pay you keep. You would not be entitled to CRDP at age 60 because the residual itself exceeds the longevity amount. DFAS PAYS = 3102.59 residual retired pay

This estimate is based on the info you provided. If the AD equivalent is wrong (or other factors as well) the estimate will not be accurate. A COLA change will occur on 1 December. I did not factor that in.

Ron
 
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