Question regarding the VA 5 Year Rule For "Stable" Disability

Is PDRL STABLE EVER given as the initial rating for a mental health issue in the Army IDES process? Reason I ask is that my PEBLO stated that any MH issue is NEVER awarded due to some NDAA clause the Army is using to never award PDRL for any MH issue - no matter how long the SM has been diagnosded and treated for it. Especially as it relates to PTSD, MDD, and/or GAD.
I have had a case in the past year that was PTSD, stable, rated at 70%. But, this is very rare. Most times, they just defer to 38 CFR 4.129, and rate at 50%.
And another question I have is this (but I might have my thoughts in error here): If a SM has STABLE on their physical issues, and even though they have only one MH issue, the Army issues TDRL; and then later, ALL their issues (physical/stable and all) are "up for grabs" during the re-eval process - even though the physical issues were considered stable at time of retirement under the IDES process? How is any of that right or fair? What's the point of giving a stable assessment, then awarding TDRL for all it, and then having the SM redo all of them during a TDRL re-eval?
Can't speak to "fair" or "right." Like many things, it is a policy decision that all conditions are up for re-rating on TDRL re-evaluation. All I can say, that is what the law says, so that's what it is.
 
5.10.2 Protections against Reductions after Twenty Years of Continuous Rating at a Particular Level



If a disability has been continuously rated at or above a particular rating level for twenty or more years, the VA cannot reduce the rating below that level unless it discovers that the rating was based on fraud. 533 For example, if a veteran is granted compensation based upon an original rating of 30 percent and for the next twenty years the rating varies between 30 percent and 100 percent, the rating cannot thereafter be reduced below 30 percent in the absence of fraud. The twenty-year protection rule applies even to rating levels that are assigned retroactively because a previous final decision is revised based on a finding of clear and unmistakable error (CUE). That is, if a rating is retroactively increased [based on a finding of CUE] and the effective date of such increase is more than twenty years in the past, the revised disability percentage is protected by the twenty-year protection rule. 534 (The concept of clear and unmistakable error is discussed in Section 14.4 of this Manual.)

Footnotes

533. 38 U.S.C.S. 110; 38 C.F.R. 3.951(b)(2007); See Colayong, 12 Vet. App. at 531-32 (veterans 60 percent rating for Potts disease that has been in effect for at least twenty years is preserved by operation of law); Cf. Dofflemyer v. Derwinski, 2 Vet. App. 277, 280 (1992) (a rating twenty days short of having been in effect for twenty years was not protected from reduction by 3.951(b)).

534. VA. Gen. Coun. Prec. 68-91 (Sept. 26, 1991).





5.10.3 Rules Regulating the Reduction of Total (100 Percent) Disability Evaluations



Advocates unfamiliar with veterans law might logically think that when the VA considers reducing a total (100 percent) rating, the issue to be decided is whether the veterans current symptomatology is equal to the symptomatology needed for the 100 percent evaluation. 535 However, in the absence of clear error in its previous total disability rating, the issue the VA must decide is whether there has been material improvement in the physical or mental condition evaluated as 100 percent disabling. 536 Without an examination that confirms such improvement, the VA is prohibited from reducing the veterans rating. 537

The VA must compare the evidence it relied on in its most recent decision to continue the 100 percent evaluation with the evidence it intends to rely upon to reduce the 100 percent evaluation. 538 In Karnas v. Derwinski, 539 the CAVC ruled that if there has been no improvement at all since the date of the last examination continuing the 100 percent rating, a reduction is prohibited. When deciding whether there has been improvement in the veterans condition, the CAVC has held that the VA may look at both medical and nonmedical evidence to determine whether a veterans condition has materially improved. 540

**Advocacy Tip** In some instances, the evidence reveals some improvement in the service-connected disability. If this is the case, advocates are advised to compare the most recent evidence with the earlier evidence used to continue or establish the 100 percent evaluation. If feasible, the advocate should argue that there has been no improvement. Alternatively, the advocate should argue that even though there has been some improvement in the service-connected condition, this is not significant enough to constitute material improvement because some improvement does not constitute material improvement.

The regulations also preclude a reduction unless the improvement was attained under the ordinary conditions of life, i.e., while working or actively seeking work. 541 A private medical opinion stating that the claimant has not medically improved since the 100 percent evaluation was assigned or continued can be crucial in these cases. A common tactical advocacy error is to argue that the severity of the veterans service-connected condition still meets the definition of 100 percent in the rating schedule. As stated earlier, the issue is not what percentage evaluation the current symptomatology warrants but whether the service-connected condition has materially improved. Therefore, advocates should refer to the rating schedule but not rely on it exclusively.

Even if the VA is justified in reducing a total rating after applying the rating reduction rules described above, an additional rule applies that may result in the preservation of the veterans entitlement to benefits at the total rating level. If the VA determines that a reduction in a total schedular rating (100 percent) is warranted, but the record reflects that the veteran is unable to engage in substantially gainful employment by virtue of his or her service-connected disability, the veteran must be awarded a total (100 percent) rating based on the individual unemployability (TDIU) provisions of 38 C.F.R. 4.16. 542 Moreover, once a veteran is in receipt of benefits at the total rating level based on TDIU, the VA may not reduce the benefits unless clear and convincing evidence establishes that the veteran is capable of actual employability. 543

Footnotes

535. See Dofflemyer, 2 Vet. App. at 279-80 (The BVA incorrectly phrased the issue in terms of whether appellant was entitled to an increased rating; in fact and in law, the issue presented to the BVA, and to this Court, is not whether the veteran was entitled to an increase but whether the reduction of appellants rating from 100% to 10% was proper.); Peyton, 1 Vet. App. at 286 (This is a rating reduction case, not a rating increase case).

536. 38 C.F.R. 3.343(a) (2007).

537. 38 C.F.R. 3.343(a) (2007). Temporary 100 percent ratings are not subject to the general rule established by 38 C.F.R. 3.343(a) that reductions of a total rating be based on material improvement.See 38 C.F.R. 4.28, 4.29, 4.30 (2007) (regulations governing prestabilization ratings and total ratings assigned because the veteran is hospitalized or convalescing).

538. See Ternus v. Brown, 6 Vet. App. 370, 376 (1994); Dofflemyer, 2 Vet. App. at 280; Hohol v. Derwinski, 2 Vet. App. 169, 173 (1992).

539. 1 Vet. App. 308 (1991).

540. Faust v. West, 13 Vet. App. 342, 349-50 (2000).

541. 38 C.F.R. 3.343(a) (2007); see Ternus, 6 Vet. App. at 376; Dofflemyer, 2 Vet. App. at 280; Hohol, 2 Vet. App. at 173;Karnas, 1 Vet. App. at 308.

542. Hohol, 2 Vet. App. 169, 173 (1992); Gleicher v. Derwinski, 2 Vet. App. 26, 28 (1991); Karnas, 1 Vet. App. at 311;see also Manual M21-1MR, Part III, subpart iv, 8.D.14(b).

543. 38 C.F.R. 3.343(c) (2007). See Faust, 13 Vet. App. at 356. In that case, the CAVC held that evidence that indicates that a veteran is engaged in substantially gainful employment establishes that the veteran is capable of actual employability.Id. See Section5.5.1 for a discussion of substantially gainful employment.

Awesome!!! I was previously rated at 10% for my left ankle in June of 1992; did some reserve time then came back in the regular army in 2007. Just got my VA ratings and they had neglected to include my previous rating of 10%. Looks like they waited two weeks too long to deny the claim! I'm at 20 years! This will push my rating from 74% rounded down to 70%, up to 76% which rounds up to 80%!!!


Someone was telling me about a VA rule for assessing a "stable" rating for VA rating purposes.

I am really foggy on this and need clarification.

When does this 5-year clock begin?

I have a "Proposed" VA rating from the IDES process.

In the VA part of this process, the VA listed each name of medical/psych issue and also listed the injury/disease on-set date.

How does the VA determine the 5 year "stable" ruling?

Is it based on the date on on-set?

Here is an example of what the VA wrote for one medical issue:

"A review of your service treatment records show you had [XXX] through your deployment in 2006.....A review of your VA predischarge exam you reported that your condition has existed since November 2006 when you injured yourself during training....There is no evidence that his condition preexisted military service, and it was diagnosed on VA predischarge examination. Your statement as to the date of onset and continuity of symptoms has been deemed credible. As such, you meet the requirements of a 40% evaluation because [VASRD rating criteria related to XXX]."

So when does this 5 year timeclock start ticking for VA stable rating purposes?

At time of on-set (NOV 2006)? The date on this Proposed Rating notice? The date I receive final, official notification for disability compensation? Five years after I begin receiving compensation for this issue?

I have four issues that have an on-set date of NOV 2006, and the VA math has a combined rating of 86% (90%) for these four issues.

I have other issues with different onset dates (newer dates), but, when all combined, the VA issued a 100% proposed rating.

Thank-you in advance for answering this stable rating question
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