IPEB results

I just received my IPEB ratings 30% dod PDRL and 100% VA. I’m debating if I should appeal based on some things. So quick background:

2 of my 5 referred conditions for the MEB/PEB were deemed unfit and not combat related, the remaining 3 deemed fit all fall under mental health and every attorney I talked to agrees I should've been deemed unfit for those as well. The board's reasoning for saying my conditions weren't combat related could definitely be challenged and more than likely won since I have more evidence from medics I deployed with that I didn't think was necessary at the time to get. So here's where I'm trying to decide if the juice is worth the squeeze..

If I appeal I could ask for my conditions to be combat related with more evidence, and for my mental health conditions to be deemed unfit as well, looking at somewhere near 80% TDRL. Is it even worth it to shoot for a higher DoD rating or to get my conditions categorized as combat related, monetarily speaking? (also, are there any tax benefits?) Ive run the numbers on potential CRSC and since I have like ~50 conditions with the VA and IMO all of them are combat related I have a very good shot at maxing out CRSC even if those two referred conditions are not combat related. I understand just because the PEB deemed a condition not combat related that doesn't mean the CRSC board will do the same, I just want to know if there’s any reason I should fight for a high dod percentage or to fight to get them combat related.

Thanks,
-P
 
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PDM said:
I just received my IPEB ratings 30% dod PDRL and 100% VA. I’m debating if I should appeal based on some things. So quick background:

2 of my 5 referred conditions for the MEB/PEB were deemed unfit and not combat related, the remaining 3 deemed fit all fall under mental health and every attorney I talked to agrees I should've been deemed unfit for those as well. The board's reasoning for saying my conditions weren't combat related could definitely be challenged and more than likely won since I have more evidence from medics I deployed with that I didn't think was necessary at the time to get. So here's where I'm trying to decide if the juice is worth the squeeze..

If I appeal I could ask for my conditions to be combat related with more evidence, and for my mental health conditions to be deemed unfit as well, looking at somewhere near 80% TDRL. Is it even worth it to shoot for a higher DoD rating or to get my conditions categorized as combat related, monetarily speaking? (also, are there any tax benefits?) Ive run the numbers on potential CRSC and since I have like ~50 conditions with the VA and IMO all of them are combat related I have a very good shot at maxing out CRSC even if those two referred conditions are not combat related. I understand just because the PEB deemed a condition not combat related that doesn't mean the CRSC board will do the same, I just want to know if there’s any reason I should fight for a high dod percentage or to fight to get them combat related.

Thanks,
-P
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How long have you been in and what retirement plan are you on? 30% PDRL gets you tricare for life. CRSC helps give you back the VA offset and won't have any bearing on what the IPEB results are since its based on longevity of earned pension + VA disability. Its hard to give advice without knowing more info.
 
PDM said:
I just received my IPEB ratings 30% dod PDRL and 100% VA. I’m debating if I should appeal based on some things. So quick background:

2 of my 5 referred conditions for the MEB/PEB were deemed unfit and not combat related, the remaining 3 deemed fit all fall under mental health and every attorney I talked to agrees I should've been deemed unfit for those as well. The board's reasoning for saying my conditions weren't combat related could definitely be challenged and more than likely won since I have more evidence from medics I deployed with that I didn't think was necessary at the time to get. So here's where I'm trying to decide if the juice is worth the squeeze..

If I appeal I could ask for my conditions to be combat related with more evidence, and for my mental health conditions to be deemed unfit as well, looking at somewhere near 80% TDRL. Is it even worth it to shoot for a higher DoD rating or to get my conditions categorized as combat related, monetarily speaking? (also, are there any tax benefits?) Ive run the numbers on potential CRSC and since I have like ~50 conditions with the VA and IMO all of them are combat related I have a very good shot at maxing out CRSC even if those two referred conditions are not combat related. I understand just because the PEB deemed a condition not combat related that doesn't mean the CRSC board will do the same, I just want to know if there’s any reason I should fight for a high dod percentage or to fight to get them combat related.

Thanks,
-P
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I just looked up the info from your other posts. Higher DOD rating won't do much for getting additional compensation since your are 100% VA. In fact all of your pension will be offset by your VA compensation. CRSC is not taxable so I don't see many benefits for getting combat related in your case. Also if that new condition was added you would have a reexamination for it in the future and to me that would be stressful. I normally say fight for everything but there isn't much to gain. The only advantage I can see is that if mental health was added and eventually the rating held still until PDRL you would have a lower floor for financial benefits if in the future your VA compensation % was drastically reduced.
 
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Provis said:
I just looked up the info from your other posts. Higher DOD rating won't do much for getting additional compensation since your are 100% VA. In fact all of your pension will be offset by your VA compensation. CRSC is not taxable so I don't see many benefits for getting combat related in your case. Also if that new condition was added you would have a reexamination for it in the future and to me that would be stressful. I normally say fight for everything but there isn't much to gain. The only advantage I can see is that if mental health was added and eventually the rating held still until PDRL you would have a lower floor for financial benefits if in the future your VA compensation % was drastically reduced.
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Wait, so let me clarify.. if in the future the VA changed/adjusted their percentage rates for the conditions I was rated unfit for, it would effect my DoD percentage either negatively or positively even though at the time of my IPEB ratings I totaled 30%?

That’s insane. I don’t like that at all, I thought permanent meant.. permanent. That uncertainty is a little unnerving especially since I count a lot on tricare for my family and I.
 
PDM said:
Wait, so let me clarify. if in the future the VA changed/adjusted their percentage rates for the conditions I was rated unfit for, it would effect my DoD percentage either negatively or positively even though at the time of my IPEB ratings I totaled 30%?

That’s insane. I don’t like that at all, I thought permanent meant.. permanent. That uncertainty is a little unnerving especially since I count a lot on tricare for my family and I.
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A change in a VA rating does NOT impact one's DoD disability rating.

@Provis accurate description is related to the fact that your DoD disability retired pay is reduced dollar for dollar in the amount of VA compensation received.
It appears that your current DoD is 30% so all your retired pay is lost through the VA offset. Even if it was at a much higher rate, all or most of it would be offset since your VA is more than $3000.

Discussion of VA Offset: Discussion, DoD Retired Pay and VA Compensation LINK <----

CRSC information is at:
Collection of CRSC information LINK <—-

Rpm
 
RonG said:
A change in a VA rating does NOT impact one's DoD disability rating.

@Provis accurate description is related to the fact that your DoD disability retired pay is reduced dollar for dollar in the amount of VA compensation received.
It appears that your current DoD is 30% so all your retired pay is lost through the VA offset. Even if it was at a much higher rate, all or most of it would be offset since your VA is more than $3000.

Discussion of VA Offset: Discussion, DoD Retired Pay and VA Compensation LINK <----

CRSC information is at:
Collection of CRSC information LINK <—-

Rpm
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Okay so I just misinterpreted what he was saying. Well, thank you both for the help, I’m still going to consult with an attorney but to be honest they haven’t been much help. One of them said I needed more than 50% DoD to “double dip” into CRSC and to stay away from “pebforum.com”. Another said I shouldn’t appeal because if I’m found unfit in the mental health referred conditions it means I possible won’t be able to own any personal weapons in the future. So much bad word out there.

-PDM
 
PDM said:
Okay so I just misinterpreted what he was saying. Well, thank you both for the help, I’m still going to consult with an attorney but to be honest they haven’t been much help. One of them said I needed more than 50% DoD to “double dip” into CRSC and to stay away from “pebforum.com”. Another said I shouldn’t appeal because if I’m found unfit in the mental health referred conditions it means I possible won’t be able to own any personal weapons in the future. So much bad word out there.

-PDM
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Hopefully, you also misinterpreted your attorney since some of what is posted above either totally wrong or partially so.

Based on the limited info provide, you are not eligible for CRDP (“double dip“ you said) even if you had a 50% DOD or VA COMP for that matter. You might be eligible for CRSC as being retired at DoD 30% or more and having an approved CRSC percentage at 10% are a couple of the requirements.

Comparing CRSC and CRDP​

Retirees cannot receive both Combat Related Special Compensation (CRSC) and Concurrent Retirement and Disability Pay (CRDP). If you qualify for both, in the initial year of your joint eligibility, DFAS will automatically apply the entitlement that is most beneficial to you based on your gross amount of each entitlement. This will remain in effect until the next CRDP/CRSC Open Season. You will receive an initial CRDP/CRSC Election form shortly following your joint eligibility. Complete and return the form within 45 days if you wish to change to the entitlement that we did not select for you. In subsequent years, you will need to make this determination yourself during Open Season. Open season usually takes place in January.

The chart below highlights the differences between the two programs to help you decide which one is better for you.



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CRSCCRDP
Qualified Injurycombat-linked disabilitiesservice-connected disabilities
ClassificationSpecial Compensation (not subject to rules and regulations governing military retired pay)Military retired pay (subject to rules and regulations governing military retired pay)
Full Concurrent Receipt?Yes - Retirees can receive either part or all of both their military retirement pay and VA disability compensationNo - Restoration of pay is phased in over 10 years (from 2004 to 2014)
Claim ProcessMust apply through Branch of ServiceAutomatic
EligibilityEligible claimants:
  • Are entitled to and/or receiving military retired pay
  • Are rated at least 10% by the Department of Veteran’s Affairs (VA)
  • Are least 60 years old or retired under Temporary Early Retirement Authority (TERA) if they are a reservist
  • Have waived their VA pay from their retired pay
Eligible claimants:
  • Are retired with 20 years Active or Reserve Duty
  • Are receiving retired pay (that is offset by VA payments)
  • Have a 50% + VA disability rating
  • Reservists and national guardsmen must be eligible to retire based on service, normally 60 years old
Retroactive EntitlementMay go back to June 1, 2003, for any month in which all eligibility requirements are satisfied but may be limited to retirement date.

Disability retirees with less than 20 years will be automatically limited to a retroactive date of January 1, 2008 as required by legislation passed by Congress effective 2008.		May go back to January 1, 2004, for any month in which all eligibility requirements are satisfied, but may be limited to retirement date.

CRDP is not payable before January 1, 2004.
Federal TaxationNon-taxableTaxable, according to your current retired pay Federal Income Tax Withholding (FITW) tax rate
Issue of PaymentCRSC payments are deposited to the same account where you receive your retired pay. If your VA disability compensation offset exceeds your retired pay, your CRSC payment will be deposited into the account most recently designated as your current checking address.CRDP is not a new payment, but rather an increase in your retired pay. CRDP decreases your VA waiver so that you receive more of your gross retired pay. Your new pay amount will continue to be deposited into the same account and will not affect your compensation from the VA.
Subject to Division with a Former SpouseNo*Yes
Subject to Collection / GarnishmentYesYes
SBP (Survivor Benefit Plan) Premiums Deducted
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