Thank you; I look forward to reading of the results, especially since there were “unknowns” in your case.
Ron
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Ron, I need your help. Played with many different calculators and cannot figure it out.
Prior to medically retiring from the Army Reserve, I had a 20 year letter, not sure if this info is needed.
Retiree account statement says $2148. (I've attached a picture of it.)
High 3 is $4531
Medically retired at 40%
VA rated 100%
I have a spouse with one child under 18 years old
Awarded 60% CRSC
Thanks in advance!
Prior to medically retiring from the Army Reserve, I had a 20 year letter, not sure if this info is needed.
Retiree account statement says $2148. (I've attached a picture of it.)
High 3 is $4531
Medically retired at 40%
VA rated 100%
I have a spouse with one child under 18 years old
Awarded 60% CRSC
Thanks in advance!
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I forgot to mention that my total active duty time is 9 years,11 months
1. 2148 is retired pay @ 40% ...all waived due to 100% VA compensation of >3000
2. 2148/0.40 = 5370 high three
3. 9 yrs 11 mo is 9.916 yrs x 0.025 = 24..79% multiplier
4. 5370 x 0.2479 = 1331.22 longevity portion of retirement pay
5. CRSC approved at 60% = $1,290.86
6. Item 5 is less than item 4 so CRSC = 1290.86
However, you said H -3 is 4531; 4531 x 40% Ret % = 1812.40. Your RAS shows 2148 gross. There seems to be an error in the data you provided, possibly the DOD @ 40% or the high three you provided.
Ron
Edited to add 24 May 2019: A summary of this case is at post 260 of this thread.
Thanks Ron. Yes, this is why I am confused.
Ron, attached is my DA 5892, PEBLO ESTIMATED DISABILITY COMPENSATION WORKSHEET. Your numbers are correct; another piece of info that I have is that during the time of my medical retirement which the Army medically retired me at 40%, I was 80% VA during that time ($1840 per month). So, the Army told me that I would continue to receive my $1840 from the VA which was higher than the $1812. This is what makes it so hard to figure out CRSC for me. Then there is the RAS gross of $2148. So many variables and information. What are your thoughts?
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I will look at this in the morning. One comment about “ So, the Army told me that I would continue to receive my $1840 from the VA which was higher than the $1812. This is what makes it so hard to figure out CRSC for me. Then there is the RAS gross of $2148. So many variables and information. What are your thoughts?”
1. CRSC replaces part of the 1812. The 1812 was reduced by the amount of VA comp. There remains an accounting for it...it did not just disappear.
2. CRSC replaces some or all of the retired pay waived (for receipt of VA comp) for approved combat related disabilities.
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1. 2148 is current retired pay @ 40%(includes COLAs) ...all waived due to 100% VA compensation of >3000
2. 2148/0.40 = 5370 high three (current after application of COLAs)
3. 9 yrs 11 mo is 9.916 yrs x 0.025 = 24..79% multiplier
4. 5370 x 0.2479 = 1331.22 longevity portion of retirement pay
5. CRSC approved at 60% = $1,290.86
6. Item 5 is less than item 4 so CRSC = 1290.86
Based on the info you provided, your CURRENT CRSC (1 month) should be 1290.86
Summary for one month such as June 2019:
VA pays = 3000 +
DFAS pays = 1290.86 CRSC
Ron
Edited to add 24 May 2019: A summary of this case is at post 260 of this thread.
I will look at this in the morning. One comment about “ So, the Army told me that I would continue to receive my $1840 from the VA which was higher than the $1812. This is what makes it so hard to figure out CRSC for me. Then there is the RAS gross of $2148. So many variables and information. What are your thoughts?”
1. CRSC replaces part of the 1812. The 1812 was reduced by the amount of VA comp. There remains an accounting for it...it did not just disappear.
2. CRSC replaces some or all of the retired pay waived (for receipt of VA comp) for approved combat related disabilities.
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Edited to add (late Tuesday)
1. 2148 is current retired pay @ 40%(includes COLAs) ...all waived due to 100% VA compensation of >3000
2. 2148/0.40 = 5370 high three (current after application of COLAs)
3. 9 yrs 11 mo is 9.916 yrs x 0.025 = 24..79% multiplier
4. 5370 x 0.2479 = 1331.22 longevity portion of retirement pay
5. CRSC approved at 60% = $1,290.86
6. Item 5 is less than item 4 so CRSC = 1290.86
Based on the info you provided, your CURRENT CRSC (1 month) should be 1290.86
Summary for one month such as June 2019:
VA pays = 3000 +
DFAS pays = 1290.86 CRSC
Ron
Edited to add 24 May 2019: A summary of this case is at post 260 of this thread.
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Ron,
You see the be the man with calculating things so thought I’d ask for your help.
1- 20 years 6 months medical retired (combat injured)
2- 90% DOD (75% for pay = $4450) **VA Waiver is $1400, which is difference between length of service % and DOD %** (Currently getting $3100 based solely off actual retirement years)
3 - 100% VA (P&T)
4- Spouse and 3 kids under 18
4 - Recently awarded 90% CRSC. Don’t think there will be any benefit but wanted assistance on calculating things prior to hearing from DFAS.
Any insight would be appreciated - Thanks!
You see the be the man with calculating things so thought I’d ask for your help.
1- 20 years 6 months medical retired (combat injured)
2- 90% DOD (75% for pay = $4450) **VA Waiver is $1400, which is difference between length of service % and DOD %** (Currently getting $3100 based solely off actual retirement years)
3 - 100% VA (P&T)
4- Spouse and 3 kids under 18
4 - Recently awarded 90% CRSC. Don’t think there will be any benefit but wanted assistance on calculating things prior to hearing from DFAS.
Any insight would be appreciated - Thanks!
ALL of the following is needed for an estimate (and please provide the info in the format suggested):
- High three average base pay OR gross retired pay on most recent DFAS RAS (indicate which is provided) Example: 3500 from DFAS RAS (Info from most recent DFAS RAS is preferred since it includes recent COLA increases)
- Precise number of active duty or active duty equivalent years and months. Example: 9 years and 3 months active duty
- DoD Disability percentage Example: 60% DOD
- VA percentage, all of the following; the amount; and number of dependents by category Example: 100%; 3400; spouse and 3 children under 18
- Approved CRSC rate OR expected CRSC rate Example: 80% approved CRSC
- Indicate if any of the following apply: have 20 good years for reserve retirement OR received REDUX Example: have 20 good years for reserve retirement.
Ron
Hello,
I will try a CRSC estimate without all the info. Note: CH 61 Retiree also qualified for a regular retirement
1. I infer your gross retired pay is 4450 @ 75% of a number unknown to me.
2. 4450/0.75 = 5933.33 high three
3. 4450 is reduced by unknown amount of VA compensation 100% spouse & 3 child under 18 ( $3,352.41 + 2 @ 84.69 = 3521.79)
4450 minus 3521.79 = 928.21 residual retired pay in a CRSC computation.
4. 20.5 AD yrs x 2.5% = 51.25 multiplier for LOS
5. 5933.33 x 0.5125 = 3040.83 dollar amount of longevity portion of retirement pay
6. 90% CRSC with same deps as VA Comp $2,098.62 + 2 @ 76 = 2250.62 90% CRSC
Members retired for disability under 10 U.S.C., Chapter 61 with 20 or more years of creditable service computed under section 10 U.S.C. § 1208 will have the maximum CRSC payment restricted to the amount, which when combined with any remaining retired pay after VA offset, will not exceed the applicable retired pay to which the member would otherwise have been entitled under any other provisions of law. A retiree who accepted the Career Status Bonus will have the reduced amount calculated based on retired pay that would otherwise have been computed under 10 U.S.C. § 1409(b)(2).
7. CRSC 2250.62 + 928.21 residual retired pay = 3178.83 (exceeds LOS amount)
3178.83 minus 3040.83 = 138 reduction in CRSC (2250.62 -138 = 2112.62)
Summary of pay with CRSC:
DFAS 928.21 residual Retired Pay + 2112.62 CRSC = 3040.83
Va comp = 3521.79
You already have the CRDP Info.
Ron
net pay not gross pay- still havnt seen my crsc statement
Thanks Ron!
Thanks Ron. This makes sense. The only thing I still don't seem to get my head wrapped around is that the 2148 comes from a high 3 of 5370. I know that 5370 X 40% is 2148 however, I believe that for my RAS of 2148, it is derived from 4531(actual High 3 of a W2 pay grade with over 8 years) X 50%. The only reason I believe this to be is that I got a 20 year letter and that the RAS uses the calculation of (4531 X 50%). On the other hand I am thinking that for medical retirement purposes, they used the calculation (4531 X 40%) which is 1812.
Anyhow, I am hoping that your calculation is what they award me because more $ would be nice. I appreciate all your help!
Ron, I was medically retired as 40% PDRL.
Thank you...
Yesterday I was working three CRSC cases simultaneously...what year did you retire?
Reserve service is “converted” to active service by dividing retirement points by 360.
Example: 7200 points divided by 360 = 20 years of active duty service
2.5% x 20 years = 50%
Ron
Edited to add 24 May 2019: A summary of this case is at post 260 of this thread.
Ron, I retired in August 2018. Yes, my total retirement points is 3570 X 360 = 9.91 years.
9.91 years for my W2 pay grade in 2018 is "over 8 years" = 24.79%
24.79% X 4531 = 1123
How did 2148 come into play because now the 1123 makes sense
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