You will receive the lesser of...
—Dollar amount of longevity portion of retirement pay
or
—Dollar amount in VA comp tables for married with child @ 80%
Edited to add.: ..already receives CRSC. See next post.
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—Dollar amount of longevity portion of retirement pay
or
—Dollar amount in VA comp tables for married with child @ 80%
Edited to add.: ..already receives CRSC. See next post.
I gave you the following info back in March:
You can take the amount you now receive and multiply it by months in the retro period (using crsc eff date).
That will give you a very rough estimate. I generally do not compute retro crsc since the COLA rates change and there are other variables.
Ron
You can take the amount you now receive and multiply it by months in the retro period (using crsc eff date).
That will give you a very rough estimate. I generally do not compute retro crsc since the COLA rates change and there are other variables.
Ron
From March 2019:
“CRSC effective 05/01/2018
CRSC First Payment 02/01/2019
CRSC before garnished Amount $958
CRSC Net $925”
Comments:
1. 80% CRSC married with child = $1,867.69 from VA compensation tables (current rate)
You mentioned net 925 and gross of 958 = 958 seems to be longevity portion of retirement pay
2. It appears the retro period is 1 May 2018 to 31 Dec 2018 (assuming the payment on 1 Feb 2019 was for 1-31 Jan 2019 period).
That is 8 months. There is a COLA increase 1 Dec 2018.
3. IF...you waived retired pay and did not previously receive any CRSC for the retro period, then your CRSC would be the lesser of
—dollar amount of longevity portion of retirement pay This appears to be 958.
or
—dollar amount of 80% spouse and one child under 10 in VA comp tables. (Last rate change 1 Dec 2018)= 1867.69
That amount (lesser = 958) could be multiplied by 8 to get a rough figure. That would not include the “garnishment” effect on the net.
Example: 958 x 8 = 7664 (imprecise due to COLA of 1 December 2018, which resulted in the current rate paid)
Good luck,
Ron
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Thank you Ron for all the information you provided.
Hi Ron,
I tried to use the CRSC calculator on my Mac computer, but it does not appear on the webpage? Any help you can provide me is greatly appreciated.
How will my CRSC back pay be calculated?
Today, I received a letter from the Navy which stated I was awarded CRSC at 100%. The award date is retro to January 2013.
I am married with no children.
I served 9 years 7 months on active duty.
Base pay for an E6 (under 10) in 1993 when I was medically discharged was $1565.40
I am rated 100% PNT with the VA
I am rated with the Navy at 30%
My DFAS RAS shows $755 per month is being waived due to VA compensation.
Thanks in advance for any help you may have.
All the best,
John
I tried to use the CRSC calculator on my Mac computer, but it does not appear on the webpage? Any help you can provide me is greatly appreciated.
How will my CRSC back pay be calculated?
Today, I received a letter from the Navy which stated I was awarded CRSC at 100%. The award date is retro to January 2013.
I am married with no children.
I served 9 years 7 months on active duty.
Base pay for an E6 (under 10) in 1993 when I was medically discharged was $1565.40
I am rated 100% PNT with the VA
I am rated with the Navy at 30%
My DFAS RAS shows $755 per month is being waived due to VA compensation.
Thanks in advance for any help you may have.
All the best,
John
Hello John,
What CRSC calculator are you discussing...that of DFAS? If so, it was not updated since 2014 and had other flaws.
ALL of the following is needed for an estimate (and please provide the info in the format suggested):
Note: Occasionally, I have attempted to estimate the CRSC without all the necessary info (notwithstanding the necessary info was requested and outlined as above in most of the cases). One simple case that should have taken 5 minutes ended with with ~30 posts (half were mine) at another veterans site 4-5 years ago. I’m sure you noticed that you have already provided much of the necessary info. It would be a great help if you could use my format and provide complete answers to items 1-6. Thank you John.
Ron
What CRSC calculator are you discussing...that of DFAS? If so, it was not updated since 2014 and had other flaws.
ALL of the following is needed for an estimate (and please provide the info in the format suggested):
- High three average base pay OR gross retired pay on most recent DFAS RAS (indicate which is provided) Example: 3500 from DFAS RAS (Info from most recent DFAS RAS is preferred since it includes recent COLA increases)
- Precise number of active duty or active duty equivalent years and months. Example: 9 years and 3 months active duty
- DoD Disability percentage Example: 60% did
- VA percentage, all of the following; the amount; and number of dependents by category Example: 100%; 3400; spouse and 3 children under 18
- Approved CRSC rate OR expected CRSC rate Example: 80% approved CRSC
- Indicate if any of the following apply: have 20 good years for reserve retirement OR received REDUX Example: have 20 good years for reserve retirement.
Note: Occasionally, I have attempted to estimate the CRSC without all the necessary info (notwithstanding the necessary info was requested and outlined as above in most of the cases). One simple case that should have taken 5 minutes ended with with ~30 posts (half were mine) at another veterans site 4-5 years ago. I’m sure you noticed that you have already provided much of the necessary info. It would be a great help if you could use my format and provide complete answers to items 1-6. Thank you John.
Ron
I assume the 1500 is gross retired pay from a recent DFAS RAS .
1500/0.30 = 5000 high three. That seems high for less than ten years service.
If that is a figure from years ago when you first retired, it would be low due to COLA increases.
1. Earlier you said 755 is being waived. So, if your DOD is 30%, 755 is 30% of a number unknown to me,
755/0.30 = 2516.66 high three...proof action: 2516.66 x 30% = about 755 gross retired pay
2. 9 yr 7 mo is 9.58 years AD
3. 9.58 x 0.025 = 23.95 % multiplier
4. 2516.66 x 0.2395 = 602.74 longevity portion of retirement pay
5. The longevity portion of retirement pay is the CRSC ceiling unless the amount waived is less or if the approved CRSC amount is less. Your CRSC will be 602.74 based on info you provided and conjecture on my part.
Let me know if I have misinterpreted your case.
Regards,
Ron
1500/0.30 = 5000 high three. That seems high for less than ten years service.
If that is a figure from years ago when you first retired, it would be low due to COLA increases.
1. Earlier you said 755 is being waived. So, if your DOD is 30%, 755 is 30% of a number unknown to me,
755/0.30 = 2516.66 high three...proof action: 2516.66 x 30% = about 755 gross retired pay
2. 9 yr 7 mo is 9.58 years AD
3. 9.58 x 0.025 = 23.95 % multiplier
4. 2516.66 x 0.2395 = 602.74 longevity portion of retirement pay
5. The longevity portion of retirement pay is the CRSC ceiling unless the amount waived is less or if the approved CRSC amount is less. Your CRSC will be 602.74 based on info you provided and conjecture on my part.
Let me know if I have misinterpreted your case.
Regards,
Ron
Hi Ron,
Recent DFAS RAS is $755 per month for the year ending 2018.
2018 pay for E6 over 8 is: $3,453.00
Thanks,
John
Yes, but the 2018 active duty rate does not apply to your case.
If I was computing my own retired pay to determine if it is correct after 28 years, I would not review the pay chart for an E9 over 24 years, 2018 version. That rate is about $2500 higher or more than the final pay used in my case in 1991. The COLA increases I’ve periodically received have not kept my pay parallel with those on active duty, nor should it.
If the gross retired pay on your DFAS RAS is 755 (which you said was waived), then my computation accurately shows what your high three or final pay for retired pay is today after the COLA raises of several years.
I used your data for the basis of the computation. If your reported gross retired pay is different than 755 or your DoD retirement percentage is different than 30%, then please let me know.
Added: These computations apply to current month and retroactive pay has not been considered.
Regards,
Ron
Roger that.
My E6 pay over 8 years at the time of my medical retirement was $1,565.40 in the year 1993. At the time of my retirement, I had been at the level of E6 for 2 years and 7 months. I was meritoriously advanced to E6 in December 1990 while in combat during Desert Shield/Storm.
I am still confused, with this information does it help you to better understand my case?
Respectfully,
John
My E6 pay over 8 years at the time of my medical retirement was $1,565.40 in the year 1993. At the time of my retirement, I had been at the level of E6 for 2 years and 7 months. I was meritoriously advanced to E6 in December 1990 while in combat during Desert Shield/Storm.
I am still confused, with this information does it help you to better understand my case?
Respectfully,
John
Ron G
Im 100% CRSC
100% VA
My retirement pay is 1551, I'm active duty and retired at 21 years.
My va is 3825 due to smc code
Do i get both my crcs and my va.
I suppose to get paid on 1 june 2019 but i have not seen my CRSC statement. Do i have to wait after my first payment.
Im 100% CRSC
100% VA
My retirement pay is 1551, I'm active duty and retired at 21 years.
My va is 3825 due to smc code
Do i get both my crcs and my va.
I suppose to get paid on 1 june 2019 but i have not seen my CRSC statement. Do i have to wait after my first payment.
Hi John,
Most of the retirees I assist want to know what their CRSC will be in real time.
The computation involves determining what their retired pay base would be today, even if they retired in 1993.
Now, based upon the date you initially entered the military, you can determine which retired pay base method applies to you.
| Retired Pay Base Method | Criteria to Receive |
| Final Pay | Entry before September 8, 1980 |
| High-36 | Entry on or after September 8, 1980 |
I suspect you entered into the service on or after 8 September 1980; therefore you would be under the high-36 retired base. That means that the total of your highest 36 months would be divided by 36 to determine the high3. Then, the retirement COLA (s) would be applied for the years after 1993 or year you retired. An easy way to determine what the retired pay base from 1993 was is to divide the current gross by the DOD retirement percentage...that gives the high three with COLA included. It has nothing to do with the pay of an E6 on active duty today. You have said that the waiver due to VA comp was 755. I showed how to convert that info to your retired pay base of 1993 WITH COLA included. I took the COLA enhanced figure of high three and multiplied it by your longevity multiplier...that gave the dollar amount of the longevity portion of your retirement today, including COLA...which is also your CRSC.
In summary, the active duty pay charts of today have zero effect on what we have discussed today and your CRSC.
Pieces of information you provided were extrapolated to form an idea of how much your retired pay base from 1993 is worth today due to COLA increases (which are not the same as those for active duty).
Ron
Assuming you are a regular retiree (i.e., 20 years active duty, regular retirement ) and have a 100% CRSC approval, your CRSC should be like mine...the exact amount of my retired pay became CRSC. SMC-s and K were also approved as Combat Related in my case.
I assume the 1551 you cited is net pay, not gross pay.
The CRSC statements will likely be on MyPay tomorrow if not today. I haven’t looked at mine in years as it dies not change except for COLAs. You should receive both VA comp and CRSC.
Ron
Hello again Ron,
Thank you so very much for your time and expertise. I truly appreciate all that you have done for me and deeply respect all which you have done for our fellow veterans in this forum.
Truly yours,
John
I had retirement pay now I was approve for 100% crsc
GROSS PAY VA WAIVER | old 1,551.00 .00 | New 1,551.00 1,551.00 .00 .00 |
Absolutely Ron. When I get the exact number in the next few weeks, I'll share with the group.
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