Getting Medically Retired due to Diabetes

cbrico929

PEB Forum Regular Member
I have over 20 years and was MEB'd due to my diabetes (insulin pump)...the board recommended 20% and permanent retirement. In the remarks it states that I'm unfit for my rank/grade nothing about non-deployable. Does anybody know anyone who met a board due to diabetes and was return to duty? I'm 5ft 9in 165lbs my last three fit test I scored Excellents I have 5's on all my EPR's but they say I'm unfit :mad:

v/r

MSgt with Diabetes
 
cbrico929,

Welcome to PEBFORUM!

Yes, I have had clients found fit with diabetes. It certainly seems that you are a good candidate for a fit finding. What is your AFSC?

One thing that is interesting, the difference between a 20% rating and a 40% rating is that to meet the criteria for the higher rating, your diabetes must meet the criteria for the lower rating AND cause "regulation of activities." Since they are finding no need to regulate your activities and there is no mention of deployability, I think you have a strong case for a fit finding, absent other facts.

Best of luck and let us know any questions!
 
Thanks for your input Jason. I'm the Unit Deployment Manager for our Wing. I can deploy stateside and certain overseas bases as long as they have the right facilities. I have no medical waivers so I exercise every day...I'm actually in better shape now than I was 20 years ago. I'm suppose to meet the Formal Board in Texas later this month. I printed all my FIT scores, EPR's, and I'll have a few letters from Senior Officers letting the board that my diabetes doen't effect my work mentally or physically. Can you think of anything else I can you as ammo for this upcomming board?

thanks,

Rico
 
Rico,

Sounds like you have your bases covered. Only thing I would add is that a Senior Officer saying good things about you never hurts, make sure you have at least one letter from someone senior to you who observes your duty performance regularly. For example, having a Colonel who states only that you have no limitations is good, but better is the same Colonel who can also state he observes you (daily, weekly, twice a week, whatever) as you work in the same area and he supervises you AND you have no limitations is better. Often times, O-6s don't have that kind of direct observation, so in that case a Captain or Major may be as good or better if they do. The exception that I have seen is that SOME 0-6s or General Officer letters have been hepful when they state the blanket "no limitations" and they add that you are needed because of your unique skils, etc. and that your absence will have a great impact on mission. While technically outside of the "fit or unfit" criteria, I do think that if it is a close case, this can sway the Board. Only caveat there is that in order to be effective, you must really have unique skills.

To sum up, I think you are on the right track. Just make sure at least one of the senior folks saying you aren't limited has a basis for making the observation.

Best of luck.
 
Yes, it is possible to return to duty w/diabetes...though it likely depends on timing and circumstances.

Back in 2005 I was returned to duty, 6 mos after being dx with T1 diabetes. I had been on an insulin pump for 5 mos. At the time, there was a shortage in my year group/AFSC (Comm Officer) and I was in a non-deployable position (ROTC Instructor). Besides the diabetes, I was otherwise in excellent health.

3 years later, I am back in the MEB process--headed for an IPEB actually. I'm still in excellent health except for some new additions to the autoimmune family (Rheum Arthritis, Pernicious Anemia, among others). I always ace the PFT, am a fit 5'10" 170lbs, and have a glowing Commander's letter. However, I suspect since we are downsizing, I will either be seperated or retired by the board...the latter hopefully as I have almost 18 TAFMS. I'm optimistically hoping for return to duty, but given the current state of the AF and my conditions, I realize that may not be possible.

From what I've seen, the Phy Eval Sys and resulting board results are individually unique. Hopefully the board agrees with you and rules in your favor!!!

PM me and I'll shoot you my .mil email.
 
I have been in the Marine Corps for over 11 years and was diagnosed type 1 last January. My informal PEB came back fit. As it was explained to me I can still perform my job so I can stay in the Corps, however I am non-deployable so I will be denied re-enlistment because it is a requirement to be world wide deployable. I can't bring myself to accept that I am well enought to stay in for the next 2 years (until my EAS) but not for the next 8 1/2 to finish my 20 years. I decided to request, and was granted a formal board which goes this March. I am hoping that I will be able to finish my 20 years, deployable or not. I have no other restrictions, I run P.T 3 times a week, I pass my PFT with a first class, I shoot expert on the rifle and pistol range, I still go to the gas chamber and I can still perform in my MOS.

Has anyone been to the formal board? If so what can I expect?
 
The three of you, best of luck! Maddscientist, have you asked about any kind of waiver for the world-wide deployability? Seems like you can get a waiver for nearly anything.
 
I had my formal board today here at Lackland AFB, verdict....Return to Duty :) I want to thank Jason who was a huge help getting my package ready for this board, with out his help I would of been lost through this process...also thanks to all the other members on the board who help me out too.

Rico
 
Rico,

Congratulations! I am very happy that you got a good result and that we were of help.

I hope we will see you here from time to time and please remember to share this site with anyone else who might benefit.
 
Rico, way to go! Now that you've gone through the formal board, I wouldn't mind hearing how it went. Did they follow from the script?
 
SWO with Type 1 Diabetes

Gentlemen,
Wanted to know what exactly are your benefits if you are diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes. I'm currently a Navy Surface Warfare Officer on my first shore tour with 7.5 yrs of service. After diagnosis Navy Med Rep informed me that no Med board was needed and I could go on to my next assignment (sea duty) with no issues except my next ship would need to have a med staff onboard.
I'm happy that I have been able to stay fit for duty but have seen many blogs of personnel getting Boarded, separated, or medically retired after diagnosis.
I have also seen posts of people saying that there is no compensation because type 1 diabetes is not a service caused disease.
What actually happens to personnel diagnosed with type 1 in the military?

I also have read an article stating the relation of the Anthrax vaccination and an increase in diagnosis of Type 1 diabetics especially in Navy and AF personnel. The statement was presented to Congress by Dr. Classen; here is the article ( Gulf War Syndrome )

The reason I mentioned this is because I have been going over my med records. My blood sugar levels were fine before the anthrax vaccine. Following the anthrax vaccine I noticed an increase in blood sugar levels.
Has anybody heard of this; If so is it going to be similar to the agent orange benefits for Vietnam vets?

Thanks,
SWO looking for answers
 
SWO with Type 1 Diabetes

Hello Domlou,
Here you state
After diagnosis Navy Med Rep informed me that no Med board was needed and I could go on to my next assignment (sea duty) with no issues except my next ship would need to have a med staff onboard.

What exactly do you mean from that??

What happens to a person once they get the DX of DM1?? Each service is different, and there is change right now in general of how diabetes is viewed. Army and Marines tend to keep them. Navy tend to find them Fit for Duty, but kick you out once you can't deploy (More on that later). Air Force kicks the majority out.

The article is a little, worthless. While yes, he does say there is a relationship between Anthrax and Diabetes, it doesn't help us.....yet. Right now there is a little group at the Walter Reed Medical trying to collect as much info as they can to see if Anthrax has any connection to DM1. So while the paper you linked said yes, the US government is doing their own thing.

Why are your blood sugar's being checked in your records?? And how much of an increase??

When/if you get medically boarded, there will be a spot on one of the first paper works they do that say if you got this before you entered Military, or if it was service connected. If they say you had this before you entered, the burden of proof IS ON THEM, not you. If it is type 1, there is no way you had this before you entered. Out of all 3 main types of antibodies, the longest one takes two years to completely destroy the pancreas, so you're safe there. The only way for the Military/Navy to prove it is to take the blood sample from when you entered MEPS, unfreeze it, test it for antibodies and the test would have to come back positive.

As for compensation, as long as we don't get kicked out with Dishonorable Discharge, Diabetes is taken care of. All service connected conditions are paid for by the US VA.

Okay, now for the "Navy is finding you guys fit but will discharge ya". Currently, there is a memo stating that "Deployabilty is paramount to a fit force" (I paraphrased it). So any diabetes that requires the use of insulin is considered to be non-deployable. BUT, Army has had a type 1 in full armor suit in the desert with the use of a pump. So Army and Marines will generally find them Fit for duty with a C code (meaning certain restrictions on where you go, but doesn't mean you can't deploy) and Air force is pretty much "F you have a nice life". Now you Sailors have done such a good job arguing in the appeals process that the boards will find you "Fit for duty", but with a C code and non-deployable. Once another office of yours see's the non-deployable part, they will kick you out reciving nothing. So there's kinda two parts to that scenerio. The first is "Can the Navy kick me out??" So far, they have, but there is a movement going against that with the boards own MAparker spearheading it. (I've been out for a while, so I don't know if there's any progress). The second part is the "Who pays for the insulin??" I would think as long as you had a service connected disability, seperating you or not, they would be able to pay for it, as long as you had proof of it. This shit is expensive, it's almost 800 bucks a month.
 
Dio,

You said a small group at Walter Reed is looking into Anthrax and T1 Diabetes. I can tell you I had all 6 Anthrax shots. I was dx w/T1 Oct 07. My last Anthrax shot was in 03. I personally think it had something to do with the Flu nasal mist. Anyway, PM me for more info. BTW, I was found fit for duty at at my FPEB in 08.

--Brian
 
Wow, never heard of Anthrax or the mist causing diabetes......my Dr thinks I have diabetes from my Sleep Apnea surgery (Triple P). Before I had my sleep apnea sugery my medical records had hardly any thing in it but now I have two big volumes of medical records. I'm acutally going to start my terminal leave in April this year....can't wait to finally retire. I'm still wondering what kind of rating I'll be recieving once I turn in all my paperwork to the VA. My DAV rep said: Severe sleep apnea with CPAP is automacally 50%, Type 1 Diabetes with insulin pump 10%, Graves diesease "Hyper Thyroid" 10%, ringing in my ears 10%, visual scars from my sleep apnea surgery, high cholestrol, and prior heart attack....80% maybe. I have four doctors and they all think I should be 100% but I'm not going to hold my breath.
 
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