DOD vs VA Disabilty Pay RFI

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JHedges

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Gents,

RFI regarding disability pay structure for the following example.

Board results: UNFIT, Combat Related, PDRL and less than 15 years (no TERA / not eligible for concurrent receipt).

Conditions:
1) 30% (UNFITTING CONDITION)

Other Conditions
1) 20%
2) 20%
3) 10%
4) 10%
5) 10%

30% of my high-3 base pay = $1580 / Mo / After tax

Combined Ratings for NON-unfitting conditions = 50%
VA Compensation Vet, Spouse, 1 Child +2 other Children <18 = $1129/Mo

Should I expect a High-3 pay of $1580 / Mo (after tax) from the DOD and $1129 / Mo from the VA non-taxable?

Total Monthly DOD/VA = $2700 / Mo Combined

OR

Combined disability rating of 70% (all conditions)
30% of my high-3 base pay = $2200 / Mo (pre tax)
VA Compensation Vet, Spouse, 1 Child +2 other Children <18 = $1756 / Mo

$2200 - $1756 = $444 DOD taxable amount

$1756 (VA) + $320 (DOD after) = $2076 / Mo Combined

Still not sure how the combat related part factors in.

Which example is correct... or are they both wrong. Thanks for the help!!

-Jordan
 
You can not get both VA and DoD under 20 years of service. Getting both is called CRDP and requires 20 years of service.
 
chaplaincharlie said:
You can not get both VA and DoD under 20 years of service. Getting both is called CRDP and requires 20 years of service.
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False, you do not HAVE to make it to 20 years (that is one way) - according to DFAS: https://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/disability/crdp.html

"you are retired under Temporary Early Retirement Act (TERA) and have a VA disability rating of 50 percent or greater."

This is why getting to 15 years (TERA minimum cutoff) is a game changer for those being medically retired.

So... is the second example I posted correct?
 
JHedges said:
False, you do not HAVE to make it to 20 years (that is one way) - according to DFAS: https://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/disability/crdp.html

"you are retired under Temporary Early Retirement Act (TERA) and have a VA disability rating of 50 percent or greater."

This is why getting to 15 years (TERA minimum cutoff) is a game changer for those being medically retired.

So... is the second example I posted correct?
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You are correct. The OP said that TERA was not applicable.
 
BTW no one currently in the PEB sytem is TERA eligible, TERA ended almost 18 years ago.
'Temporary Early Retirement Authority (TERA) authorized members with over 15, but less than 20 years of total active duty service to apply for early retirement. The opportunity to retire under this TERA program ended in September 2002. "
 
chaplaincharlie said:
BTW no one currently in the PEB sytem is TERA eligible, TERA ended almost 18 years ago.
'Temporary Early Retirement Authority (TERA) authorized members with over 15, but less than 20 years of total active duty service to apply for early retirement. The opportunity to retire under this TERA program ended in September 2002. "
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Actually, I have 2 friends that were just found UNFIT by the PEB, applied for TERA (over 15 years TIS), were approved and are seperating. 1 EAS's in 2 weeks.

I think the TERA you are referencing is for people without an UNFIT medical condition. You can no longer just request to retire if you are in a high density MOS and over 15 years.
 
Separate RFI, do you know how being Combat Related would factor into the total BL monthly amount in the 2nd example I provided above?
 
TERA is closed for the Army; some of the other services still use it.

Collection of CRSC info: A Supplement to CRSC Information <---LINK

CRSC cannot exceed the longevity portion of retired pay (residual retired pay reduces the amount of CRSC for CH 61 retirees with less than 20 years active duty)
--Active duty years (or active duty equivalent years) x 2.5% = longevity multiplier
--Average high three for retirement x longevity multiplier = dollar amount of the longevity portion of retired pay

Ron
 
Computation of retired pay, Chapter 61 retiree with less than 20 years.

1. The higher of the DoD disability percentage (example 30%) or the longevity multiplier (AD years x 2.5%) times the averag high three for base pay = disability retired pay
2. The retired pay is reduced by the amount of VA compensation. Occasionally, there is residual retired pay.
3. The retiree receives his/her VA compensation.

CRSC: Approved CRSC can replace some or all of the waived retired pay for combat related disabilities (uses VA comp tables for amounts). The combination of CRSC plus residual retired pay cannot exceed the dollar amount of the longevity portion of retired pay.

Ron
 
JHedges said:
Actually, I have 2 friends that were just found UNFIT by the PEB, applied for TERA (over 15 years TIS), were approved and are seperating. 1 EAS's in 2 weeks.

I think the TERA you are referencing is for people without an UNFIT medical condition. You can no longer just request to retire if you are in a high density MOS and over 15 years.
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DFAS is the source of my quote, evidently DFAS has obsolete info on their website.
 
chaplaincharlie said:
DFAS is the source of my quote, evidently DFAS has obsolete info on their website.
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Yes, DFAS has some obsolete info floating in the Internet.

See https://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/plan/retirement-types/2012-18tera.html <---LINK
2012-2025 Temporary Early Retirement Authority
Temporary Early Retirement Authority (TERA) authorized members with over 15, but less than 20 years of total active duty service to apply for early retirement. The opportunity to retire under this TERA program is expected to end by December 31, 2025.



Ron
 
RonG said:
Yes, DFAS has some obsolete info floating in the Internet.

See https://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/plan/retirement-types/2012-18tera.html <---LINK
2012-2025 Temporary Early Retirement Authority
Temporary Early Retirement Authority (TERA) authorized members with over 15, but less than 20 years of total active duty service to apply for early retirement. The opportunity to retire under this TERA program is expected to end by December 31, 2025.



Ron
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Thanks for the update @RonG
 
chaplaincharlie said:
BTW no one currently in the PEB sytem is TERA eligible, TERA ended almost 18 years ago.
'Temporary Early Retirement Authority (TERA) authorized members with over 15, but less than 20 years of total active duty service to apply for early retirement. The opportunity to retire under this TERA program ended in September 2002. "
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Charlie, TERA was reathorized after this. I recall an Army officer separation board in 2014 that a couple of Captains I knew got selected out and got TERA.

 
I did some digging because I'm at the 15 year mark but unfortunately this is what I found:


The Army has ended the Temporary Early Retirement Authority (TERA) program. Service members eligible for TERA must have submitted a request through their chain of command by January 15, 2018 for early retirement consideration. The authority to approve TERA was terminated on February 28, 2018.
The FY 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), Public Law 112-81, enacted 31 December 2011, authorized the military services to offer early retirement to Service members who have completed at least 15 years of active service. This is a discretionary authority and not an entitlement. The Army has elected to use this limited program as part of a comprehensive force management strategy to shape the force. It does not apply to Service members of the Army National Guard or the U.S. Army Reserve.
 
Yes, but some of the other services still use TERA.

Ron
 
RonG said:
Unfortunately, when one reads it, they naturally assume it is current.

Ron
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I appreciate the clarification Ron.
 
chaplaincharlie said:
I appreciate the clarification Ron.
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I was speaking of the incorrect info on the DFAS server.

I still see confusion regarding CRSC that is based on a 2011 DFAS power point presentation that is still available on the web. It includes the CRSC Glitch which was fixed through legislation in 2013.

Opinion: I think many of the people who write summaries of procedures, benefits, etc., for the government have no personal experience with the subject matter.

Ron
 
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