So I got my assessment and got my p3 profile and was told my MEB board started today. My Final out date is 8 Nov 12 and i think my COC is gonna try and wait it out instead of signing my extension until then because when i told my coc they didnt even respond with anything about it like i never told them. So if they dont sign it do i get out even though my meb board has started or do i have to get out, do they have to sign it or not? Who do i talk to about this?
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Don't know what it's like in the Army, but in the USMC when you get put on a LimDu or Med Board/PEB with that little time left, you're automatically put on med hold with an EAS of Indefinite or 99999999.
usualy your PEBLO will refer you to someone that works with MEB team and who's job is extensions. If you don't have a PEBLO yet, once you start clearing the installation (medical station) they will see on the system that an MEB was initiated and they will hold you at WTU until you are done with the process.
ok cuz i was worried about that because im clearing now and my COC said they werent gonna sign anything and that if i get a meb board that it would " open up a whole nother can of worms, thats not gonna happen, were not gonna sign anything" so i dunno how it gonna pan out..i have an appointment with the doctor on monday for my last signature to get my p3 profile officially accepted but i was already told by my other doctor to stop clearing..im confused im hearing different things from different places.
Who told you your MED board started? I would be damn sure of this immediately. I would wait until I hit that station clearing. YOU WILL fall through the cracks and find out some idiot somewhere along the line forgot to submit some paperwork. 8 Nov will come and they're gonna say "you can go through the VA"
It sounds like your COC does not support this and that would worry me. First thing Monday morning, go to the MTF and find out what is going on. If they can't tell you anything, go, don't call the Ombudsman office. You need answers Monday. 8 Nov is 6 days away.
What post are you on?
The doctor who put me in for the p3 told me my med board had started and if i hadnt took matters into my own hands and went to the MEB building then i wouldnt have know i needed to see another doctor to verify it. Plus i had to go back the next day to see her and she still hadnt submitted my profile so she did it while i was there friday.I have an appointment with the doctor that signs the last signature on the p3 profile on monday @ 0800 so when i looked online it still says temporary -_-......And i was being told not to clear or pick up my installation clearing papers so i havent even picked them up yet. If i'm not approved on monday/ matter of fact even if i am approved then i will try and pick them up that day if they let me. Im on Fort Bliss...After i get that last signature what else do i need before they stop my clearing process? I get the last signature signifying that i have a p3 profile...then....what happens specifically, and what part des my COC play in this....What im asking pertaining to my COC is ...If my p3 is signed but my COC refused to sign my extension then will i get out the Army or what will happen? I have so many questions lol im not clear on ALOT!!
Below is how the process typically works. If you haven't been notified by the MEB Dr that you are going through a MEB and you don't have a PEBLO, I would be concerned. What you have described is your PCM inputing your P3 profile into the system. It generally takes the MEB Dr. more than a day to review your case. What I have seen is 1-2 weeks. That would be past your final out date.
What does your COC have to do with it? The commander provides a lot of information to the MEB and a commanders letter. Search on here as to how important that is. Your COC is also who is going to stop this ball from rolling while the MEB process officially kicks in.
Do yourself a favor and go talk to the Ombudsman 1st thing tomorrow and explain everything you have said here. He will help and make a call to your command.
What are your conditions? What rank? how many years?
1. PCM signs P3 profile and notify MEB
2. MEB doc reviews
3. You get notified of MEB
4. You are assigned a PEBLO
5. You meet VA MSC
6. PEBLO schedules VA exams
7. You complete VA exams and VA sends exam information to MEB
8. MEB prepares NARSUM
9. You concur, ask for independent review, or appeal
10. After you get past step 9, it goes to the PEB
11. PEB reviews and makes a fit/unfit decision
12. If unfit, PEB sends packet to VA for ratings
13. VA rates all conditions noted from your VA exams in 7
14. VA sends ratings back to PEB
15. PEB looks ratings over and either concurs or disagrees
16. If PEB agrees, they put your 199 together
17. PEB sends 199 to your PEBLO and your PEBLO shows it to you.
18. You either concur, or appeal
19. Once you concur, you sign 199 and it goes back to the PEB
20. PEB sends 199 and findings to PDA
21. PDA reviews, signs off on it and sends your name down to your servicing PSB
22. You get orders
What does your COC have to do with it? The commander provides a lot of information to the MEB and a commanders letter. Search on here as to how important that is. Your COC is also who is going to stop this ball from rolling while the MEB process officially kicks in.
Do yourself a favor and go talk to the Ombudsman 1st thing tomorrow and explain everything you have said here. He will help and make a call to your command.
What are your conditions? What rank? how many years?
1. PCM signs P3 profile and notify MEB
2. MEB doc reviews
3. You get notified of MEB
4. You are assigned a PEBLO
5. You meet VA MSC
6. PEBLO schedules VA exams
7. You complete VA exams and VA sends exam information to MEB
8. MEB prepares NARSUM
9. You concur, ask for independent review, or appeal
10. After you get past step 9, it goes to the PEB
11. PEB reviews and makes a fit/unfit decision
12. If unfit, PEB sends packet to VA for ratings
13. VA rates all conditions noted from your VA exams in 7
14. VA sends ratings back to PEB
15. PEB looks ratings over and either concurs or disagrees
16. If PEB agrees, they put your 199 together
17. PEB sends 199 to your PEBLO and your PEBLO shows it to you.
18. You either concur, or appeal
19. Once you concur, you sign 199 and it goes back to the PEB
20. PEB sends 199 and findings to PDA
21. PDA reviews, signs off on it and sends your name down to your servicing PSB
22. You get orders
I think im at the point where the " MED dr reviews profile" I was told he was going to review my files and make sure the army has exhaused all means in making me better, they it will be determined if he will sign it and then they said my PEBLO would be assigned..
And that is my point exactly! According to your first post, your final out day is the 8th. That is 4 days away. Do you think the MEB Docs are gonna jump through hoops and review your stuff really quick, get you in the system and stop your ETS? If you do, you must not have been around the Army long. Basing your future on "I was told" is a recipe for disaster.
Myself, I did 14 years and boarded out as a CW2. I am not trying to bust your chops. I am trying to convey how important this is. The Army is a big machine and you are at the end of the assembly line. Unless somebody hits the big red button and stops it, you are gonna get spit out.
FACT!!!! The Ombudsman job is to help you. He will talk to your chain of command. He will talk to the Doctor. He will coordinate so you don't get screwed.This is your future and investing yourself in it is crucial. If not, you will be like many of the other guys you see post on here saying "what do I do now, the Army separated me without an MEB"
If you think the Doctor is going to do all of this, feel free to place your life in his hands. I mean on Fort Bliss I am sure he only needs to worry about your case right? I am sure there are not a couple of hundred other soldiers in the process.
Good Luck
yeah imma have to call them...So i was told that all was good by the MED/PEB office only to be told that my commander that he couldnt sign my affidavit for my extension because it was " above his pay grade" ...he then called the 1sg and he went all around post digging up regulation stating that there was no where that said they had to sign the affidavit and that my request was denied so now he is personally taking me to clear the installation tomorrow...he says im not in the "PEB" Process of the MEB board so no one HAS to sign anything. So im 3 days till final out with an entire installation to clear and i feel like i am helpless and they want me out so bad all the up to the bde cdr just because they want my slot so they can deploy. Im EXTREMELY UPSET,....is this even anything i can t fight? ALLL I HAVE IS A SIGNED P3 PROFILE at this point and am waiting to go to my briefing next weeks all i need is the extension so they can send it to finance s they wont stop my pay amongt other places.......I feel completely helpless right now
I am truly resisting the urge to say screw it, you won't listen anyway, but I am not going to do that.
Call your Ombudsman!!! Of course it will now be much more difficult because you will be led around by your 1st Sgt. I guess sometime tomorrow morning you can tell him you have to take a dump and sneak away to call. Do you have the number? I will assume not and help you out.
915.742.7057
915.742.7138
You might want to store these in your phone tonight so if you forget them tomorrow, you don't have to search.
Call your Ombudsman!!! Of course it will now be much more difficult because you will be led around by your 1st Sgt. I guess sometime tomorrow morning you can tell him you have to take a dump and sneak away to call. Do you have the number? I will assume not and help you out.
915.742.7057
915.742.7138
You might want to store these in your phone tonight so if you forget them tomorrow, you don't have to search.
The Ombudsman might be able to get him a last minute reprieve. At this point I can't think of anybody else who is going to help him. If he goes to the Battalion or Brigade Commander or CSM he is going to get told to pound sand.
Emerald.what is your P3 condition?