Fit or unfit?

Rockoh

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How often do PEBs find soldiers fit for duty. I’ve been reading a lot about how they qualify a person to be fit or unfit. But In reality do they keep more people in or do they deem them unfit majority of the time?
 
I’ve never seen statistics pertaining to PEB results, but the number of vsitors to this board suggests “many” are found unfit.

Ron
 
How often do PEBs find soldiers fit for duty. I’ve been reading a lot about how they qualify a person to be fit or unfit. But In reality do they keep more people in or do they deem them unfit majority of the time?
I don’t know about the Army but for the Air Force statistically 95% of the people that reach the PEB stage are found unfit.
 
Due to the congressional oversight of the disability system, each military service highly vets each case before it even enters the formal IDES process.

Because of this vetting, it becomes very rare for anyone to be found fit for duty. It doesn't mean you can't fight for what you want to happen, but you need to understand the importance of legal representation if you want to be found fit for duty.

As stated above, the fit for duty IPEB findings are around 5% of cases. I would wager that some of those 5% were people that had legal representation and fought it at the IPEB level before it went to FPEB.
 
I say the highest fit comes from the Navy and that includes exhausting all appeal options.
 
I say the highest fit comes from the Navy and that includes exhausting all appeal options.

Was just found Fit out of IPEB, even with a mountain of medical evidence and need for specialty care. About to try and get statements from medical providers which has been very difficult to accomplish due to appointment availability. CO recommended to be found unfit but no dice. I wish I knew why the Navy processes are so much more difficult?

Matt
 
@SailorJerry

Take this as an educated guess, most PEB result from combat related injuries either during or after deployment complications. The Navy seems to have an issue with so many service members suffering from the same and somewhat subjected garrison problems. Fibro, bipolar, adjustment or agoraphobia disorder, migraines and so on. Now this comes from very young sailors who aggressively pursue this I think the Navy is just very suspect of it now and fight everyone even sailors who been in many years. It's hard to find evidence of this because the VA only releases numbers for ratings between all veterans and not broken down by service. The Army screwed over vets for years but investigations especially on how they handled PTSD claims were corrected not sure if the Navy would have the backing of professionals and Congress for 20 year olds claiming migraines and BP disorder but who knows.

Their is now a trend to stop distinguishing combat and garrison health problems not sure if this has widespread support or if it's just wishfull thinking. Advocates don't like it because more programs and compensation are available to combat vets.
 
Hello,
I have been on TDR for about 16 months PTSD 70% and I recently had my first TDRL reexamination. The doctor said that I am not longer meet the requirement for a diagnosis and that my condition has remitted. He said the I am FFD and I totally agree. I don't take medications and I haven't seen a doctor for over a year. During my VA reexamination 6 months ago I was dropped to 0% for PTSD. I am waiting for the PEB decision and I wish to be found RTD.
???...What are my chances of being found FFD by the PEB
 
@Junior941

Unlikely, don't be surprised with a 0% and a discharge these questions are somewhat confusing for me as the initial MEB process is something not taken lightly at all. The main obstacle here is relapse it was very severe (70% is high) and documented to lead to your exit from service and now in a short amount of time it is gone? In another short time could it be severe again? Especially if exposed to the same conditions that lead to the diagnosis in the first place? The services just don't like taking chances on this where the MEB even has a slight chance of starting all over again there are plenty of new recruits eligible for service with no history of severe MH problems.

Nonetheless not everything is certain keep us posted to see if they allow you back in.
 
Hello,
I have been on TDR for about 16 months PTSD 70% and I recently had my first TDRL reexamination. The doctor said that I am not longer meet the requirement for a diagnosis and that my condition has remitted. He said the I am FFD and I totally agree. I don't take medications and I haven't seen a doctor for over a year. During my VA reexamination 6 months ago I was dropped to 0% for PTSD. I am waiting for the PEB decision and I wish to be found RTD.
???...What are my chances of being found FFD by the PEB
@Junior941

Unlikely, don't be surprised with a 0% and a discharge these questions are somewhat confusing for me as the initial MEB process is something not taken lightly at all. The main obstacle here is relapse it was very severe (70% is high) and documented to lead to your exit from service and now in a short amount of time it is gone? In another short time could it be severe again? Especially if exposed to the same conditions that lead to the diagnosis in the first place? The services just don't like taking chances on this where the MEB even has a slight chance of starting all over again there are plenty of new recruits eligible for service with no history of severe MH problems.

Nonetheless not everything is certain keep us posted to see if they allow you back in.
I will. Thanks
 
Hello,
I have been on TDR for about 16 months PTSD 70% and I recently had my first TDRL reexamination. The doctor said that I am not longer meet the requirement for a diagnosis and that my condition has remitted. He said the I am FFD and I totally agree. I don't take medications and I haven't seen a doctor for over a year. During my VA reexamination 6 months ago I was dropped to 0% for PTSD. I am waiting for the PEB decision and I wish to be found RTD.
???...What are my chances of being found FFD by the PEB
I have had PTSD for nearly a decade “service related”. I would say going from 70% to 0 is good for your health; but I wouldn’t be quick to buy the re-evaluation and doctors input towards saying your are 0%. There is no magic formula to make this go away fast. Say one is ok just to get back into the fight wouldn’t be ideal.
 
I have had PTSD for nearly a decade “service related”. I would say going from 70% to 0 is good for your health; but I wouldn’t be quick to buy the re-evaluation and doctors input towards saying your are 0%. There is no magic formula to make this go away fast. Say one is ok just to get back into the fight wouldn’t be ideal.
I was found fit for duty.. I am now waiting on paperwork to reenlist.
 
I'm sorry this didn't work out for you.
 
The problem arises when we try and stay in by trying to be found fit for duty. People try and minimize Thier symptoms reported in Order to be found fit and doing so are often found fit. Most of the time people will be found unfit no matter how hard they try, the system is rigged that way. It seems Navy are more likely to be found fit than other branches if they have NMAs that say they can do their job and good evals.
 
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